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Kochs Plan to Spend $900 Million on 2016 Campaign

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And they do this due to their love for their country. Thoughts are?

Kochs Plan to Spend $900 Million on 2016 Campaign

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/01/27/u...n-region&region=top-news&WT.nav=top-news&_r=0

The political network overseen by the conservative billionaires Charles G. and David H. Koch plans to spend close to $900 million on the 2016 campaign, an unparalelled effort by outside groups to shape a presidential election that is already on track to be the most expensive in history.

The goal, revealed Monday at the Kochs’ annual winter donor retreat near Palm Springs, Calif., would effectively allow their political organization to operate at the same financial scale as the Democratic and Republican parties. In the last presidential election, the Republican National Committee and the party’s two congressional campaign committees spent a total of $657 million.
 
And they do this due to their love for their country. Thoughts are?

Kochs Plan to Spend $900 Million on 2016 Campaign

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/01/27/u...lumn-region®ion=top-news&WT.nav=top-news&_r=0

The political network overseen by the conservative billionaires Charles G. and David H. Koch plans to spend close to $900 million on the 2016 campaign, an unparalelled effort by outside groups to shape a presidential election that is already on track to be the most expensive in history.

The goal, revealed Monday at the Kochs’ annual winter donor retreat near Palm Springs, Calif., would effectively allow their political organization to operate at the same financial scale as the Democratic and Republican parties. In the last presidential election, the Republican National Committee and the party’s two congressional campaign committees spent a total of $657 million.

I'm no socialist but sometimes I think some people have waaay too much money.
 
Out of curiosity, if someone really liked "Brand X" peanut butter and decided to initiate a campaign to get more people to like the brand would you have a problem with that? What if they spent $900M to get you to change from "Brand Y" to their preferred brand?
 
Out of curiosity, if someone really liked "Brand X" peanut butter and decided to initiate a campaign to get more people to like the brand would you have a problem with that? What if they spent $900M to get you to change from "Brand Y" to their preferred brand?

And the connection is? Sticky fingers? Ya must be it- sticky fingers.
 
If they're spending the money legally, more power to them. People should be happy that an individual is shoveling almost a $billion into the economy, employing scads of Americans in the process, and not squirreling it away in some offshore account or employing peons in India to answer phones.

That said, Canada is going to go through a federal election this year and by comparison, our election law limits 3rd party spending to $200,000 and we can't stand the number of ads we get subjected to. I can't imagine the pain suffered by Americans in this regard. And I don't for a minute think the amount of money matters so much as the impact of the message.
 
And they do this due to their love for their country. Thoughts are?

Kochs Plan to Spend $900 Million on 2016 Campaign

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/01/27/u...lumn-region®ion=top-news&WT.nav=top-news&_r=0

The political network overseen by the conservative billionaires Charles G. and David H. Koch plans to spend close to $900 million on the 2016 campaign, an unparalelled effort by outside groups to shape a presidential election that is already on track to be the most expensive in history.

The goal, revealed Monday at the Kochs’ annual winter donor retreat near Palm Springs, Calif., would effectively allow their political organization to operate at the same financial scale as the Democratic and Republican parties. In the last presidential election, the Republican National Committee and the party’s two congressional campaign committees spent a total of $657 million.

Thoughts are if you have it to spend, go for it. It's their money to spend as they see fit. I can't imagine spending that kind of money on politics but then again I'm sure they wouldn't understand everything I spend my money on either.
 
Out of curiosity, if someone really liked "Brand X" peanut butter and decided to initiate a campaign to get more people to like the brand would you have a problem with that? What if they spent $900M to get you to change from "Brand Y" to their preferred brand?

Choosing a President is a little more important than choosing peanut butter. We are already influenced by China and other countries over the products we purchased. Do you want to allow them to buy our Presidency as well?
 
If they're spending the money legally, more power to them. People should be happy that an individual is shoveling almost a $billion into the economy, employing scads of Americans in the process, and not squirreling it away in some offshore account or employing peons in India to answer phones.

That said, Canada is going to go through a federal election this year and by comparison, our election law limits 3rd party spending to $200,000 and we can't stand the number of ads we get subjected to. I can't imagine the pain suffered by Americans in this regard. And I don't for a minute think the amount of money matters so much as the impact of the message.

Living in NH is mostly a great thing, but the political ads start to run here one year before the general election because of the primaries, and even I, who loves politics, tires of them. And when each party is holding primaries it's double the madness.
 
You don't understand why someone would choose to spend 1% of their net worth on political influence? It is unlikely to be missed and may be a far wiser investment than buyiing lottery tickets. ;)
 
Choosing a President is a little more important than choosing peanut butter. We are already influenced by China and other countries over the products we purchased. Do you want to allow them to buy our Presidency as well?

How much is it worth to you to vote Republican?
 
I'm no socialist but sometimes I think some people have waaay too much money.

Yeah I bet their kids and grandkids facepalm when they hear about this LOL.

I had a meeting with my political action committee and we plan on spending $$900,000,004.32 on the 2016 election, so the Kochs better be planning on raising another $4.32 if they hope to have a chance of stopping us.
 
Thoughts are if you have it to spend, go for it. It's their money to spend as they see fit. I can't imagine spending that kind of money on politics but then again I'm sure they wouldn't understand everything I spend my money on either.

No concerns about influencing those elected?
 
If they're spending the money legally, more power to them. People should be happy that an individual is shoveling almost a $billion into the economy, employing scads of Americans in the process, and not squirreling it away in some offshore account or employing peons in India to answer phones.

That said, Canada is going to go through a federal election this year and by comparison, our election law limits 3rd party spending to $200,000 and we can't stand the number of ads we get subjected to. I can't imagine the pain suffered by Americans in this regard. And I don't for a minute think the amount of money matters so much as the impact of the message.
People should not be happy that a billion dollars is being wasted on promoting cynicism, primarily in a handful of swing districts to promote and maintain the interests of a billionaire plutocracy.
 
Yeah I bet their kids and grandkids facepalm when they hear about this LOL.

I had a meeting with my political action committee and we plan on spending $$900,000,004.32 on the 2016 election, so the Kochs better be planning on raising another $4.32 if they hope to have a chance of stopping us.

Here's an idea. Auction the Presidency! Money ahead, put it into general revenue. Hell, it couldn't be a worse system than the crapshoot a federal election is now.
 
Few investments have the same rate of return as buying politicians.
 
Here's an idea. Auction the Presidency! Money ahead, put it into general revenue. Hell, it couldn't be a worse system than the crapshoot a federal election is now.

Sure, but we have to have a confirmation vote to be safe. I bet if every voter gets an even cut of the sales price, fraud drops to zero and we have like 99.99% turnout. It is a winning plan for all concerned. President Oprah!!!
 
People should not be happy that a billion dollars is being wasted on promoting cynicism, primarily in a handful of swing districts to promote and maintain the interests of a billionaire plutocracy.

If it's not a $billion taxpayer dollars being wasted, I don't care at all, just as I don't care what anyone spends their own money on. I think $million weddings are obscene, but it's not my money so I don't really care.

As for elections, if ads and political spending are what shapes your vote, that's too bad - mine isn't shaped by anything other than what the candidate says regarding issues I care about and how they present themselves throughout the process.
 
If it's not a $billion taxpayer dollars being wasted, I don't care at all, just as I don't care what anyone spends their own money on. I think $million weddings are obscene, but it's not my money so I don't really care.

As for elections, if ads and political spending are what shapes your vote, that's too bad - mine isn't shaped by anything other than what the candidate says regarding issues I care about and how they present themselves throughout the process.
I think million dollar weddings and billion dollar campaign buying are both offensive, which is all the more reason to limit the degree to which individuals acquire such unreasonable amounts of money.
 
You don't understand why someone would choose to spend 1% of their net worth on political influence? It is unlikely to be missed and may be a far wiser investment than buyiing lottery tickets. ;)

If I had back all the money I've spent on Powerball tickets through the years, I'd be able to buy a private island.
 
If it's not a $billion taxpayer dollars being wasted, I don't care at all, just as I don't care what anyone spends their own money on. I think $million weddings are obscene, but it's not my money so I don't really care.

As for elections, if ads and political spending are what shapes your vote, that's too bad - mine isn't shaped by anything other than what the candidate says regarding issues I care about and how they present themselves throughout the process.
Buying influence bother you?
 
Nope. There's no evidence that they hold any more power than anyone else in this country when it comes to influencing politicians.

Now continue believing that. Nope- all for the good of the country.
Perhaps Google States Attorney General and donations from corps. Eye opener.
 
Buying influence bother you?

c'mon
this story just proves we continue to have the best government money can buy


everybody shake your pom-pom's and shout 'American exceptionalism'
 
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