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    Re: Kochs Plan to Spend $900 Million on 2016 Campaign

    Quote Originally Posted by jonny5 View Post
    Govt doesnt give people money to spend on speaking. A poor person has the same right to spend as much money as they want on promoting ideas as a rich person. That IS equal opportunity.
    You equate "promoting ideas" with individuals who buy politicians to vote their special interests? Really?

    And the Koch brother do not fund candidates based on individuality, they back Tea Baggers and the non-profit (?) organizations who promote them. That's a fact, Jack.


    On 5th Anniversary of Citizens United, GOP Taps Koch Brothers-Backed Senator to Give SOTU Response

    "...On Tuesday night, newly elected Republican Sen. Joni Ernst of Iowa, who was strongly backed by the Koch brothers, gave the GOP response to President Obama. Meanwhile this weekend, four leading Republican presidential prospects — Sen. Ted Cruz, Sen. Marco Rubio, Sen. Rand Paul and Wisconsin Gov. Scott Walker — are set to appear at an exclusive gathering of rich conservatives organized by the Koch brothers. """

    """RALPH NADER: Well, first of all, there should be a state legislature that asks the Koch brothers to come and testify and answer questions. Congress should have a congressional hearing on this, but the Republicans are in control. But nobody ever does anything more than expose the Koch brothers. Well, put them out in the public light and cross-examine them.

    My favorite approach is that every major corporation does business with the federal government, and the federal government should simply say that if you want contracts with Uncle Sam, you cannot give money to political campaigns. There are some towns in California who basically say anybody who does business with city hall cannot make contributions. So that’s one way to limit the effect of Citizens United and other judicial decisions.

    But for the overall citizen strategy against Citizens United, go to citizen.org — that’s Public Citizen’s website — which has a diverse approach to mobilize people to amend the Constitution, but, in the meantime, to do other things that will limit the effect of putting our politicians on an auction block for the highest bidder."""
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    Re: Kochs Plan to Spend $900 Million on 2016 Campaign

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Then your conviction is weak, and your imagination non existent...That puts you in the category of whiny bitch.
    I'd argue that your grasp on reality is far weaker than my conviction if you think that everyone can become an election influence multi-billionaire.

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    Re: Kochs Plan to Spend $900 Million on 2016 Campaign

    Quote Originally Posted by jonny5 View Post
    Govt doesnt give people money to spend on speaking. A poor person has the same right to spend as much money as they want on promoting ideas as a rich person. That IS equal opportunity.
    If I spend $10 dollars of my disposable income, explain how that's equal opportunity to the Kochs spending a billion.

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    Re: Kochs Plan to Spend $900 Million on 2016 Campaign

    Quote Originally Posted by PureVanilla View Post
    You equate "promoting ideas" with individuals who buy politicians to vote their special interests? Really?

    And the Koch brother do not fund candidates based on individuality, they back Tea Baggers and the non-profit (?) organizations who promote them. That's a fact, Jack.

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    Well since youre just going to call people names.

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    Re: Kochs Plan to Spend $900 Million on 2016 Campaign

    Quote Originally Posted by Unrepresented View Post
    If I spend $10 dollars of my disposable income, explain how that's equal opportunity to the Kochs spending a billion.
    You have the same right to spend a billion as they do.

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    Re: Kochs Plan to Spend $900 Million on 2016 Campaign

    Quote Originally Posted by jonny5 View Post
    You have the same right to spend a billion as they do.
    Exactly sounds like since this is such a big issue to Unrepresented that it would be a big incentive to become one of those evil rich people so he can earn those billions like Gates, Zuckerberg, the Koch Brothers and spend that money to support candidates of his choice.

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    Re: Kochs Plan to Spend $900 Million on 2016 Campaign

    Quote Originally Posted by RDS View Post
    US should be upgraded to No 1 spot in the corruption index.
    We're not even anywhere close to most of the third world countries.

    In most cases, corruption is why they're third world countries.
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    Re: Kochs Plan to Spend $900 Million on 2016 Campaign

    Quote Originally Posted by jonny5 View Post
    You have the same right to spend a billion as they do.
    I have no access to a billion dollars. I don't have that right.
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    Exactly sounds like since this is such a big issue to Unrepresented that it would be a big incentive to become one of those evil rich people so he can earn those billions like Gates, Zuckerberg, the Koch Brothers and spend that money to support candidates of his choice.
    I shouldn't have to become a billionaire to have an equal voice in society.
    "The side that stays within its fortifications is beaten." ~Napoleon

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    Re: Kochs Plan to Spend $900 Million on 2016 Campaign

    Quote Originally Posted by Unrepresented View Post
    I have no access to a billion dollars. I don't have that right.

    I shouldn't have to become a billionaire to have an equal voice in society.
    You are the only one that believes you have to have a billion to have any influence.

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    Re: Kochs Plan to Spend $900 Million on 2016 Campaign

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    You are the only one that believes you have to have a billion to have any influence.
    I didn't say that, but I certainly believe a billion dollars will be more influential than any pocket change I can apply to the discussion.
    "The side that stays within its fortifications is beaten." ~Napoleon

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