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    Re: Kochs Plan to Spend $900 Million on 2016 Campaign

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    You have yet to prove that any election was bought by the Koch Brothers or anyone else. Are you this outraged over Soros and if so why don't you start a Soros thread?
    How would one prove that an election was bought?
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    Re: Kochs Plan to Spend $900 Million on 2016 Campaign

    Quote Originally Posted by Unrepresented View Post
    How would one prove that an election was bought?
    You seem to believe that votes have been sold therefore elections have been bought. Prove it

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    Re: Kochs Plan to Spend $900 Million on 2016 Campaign

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    You seem to believe that votes have been sold therefore elections have been bought. Prove it
    I'm claiming that advertising works. I don't think that's an outrageous premise.
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    Re: Kochs Plan to Spend $900 Million on 2016 Campaign

    Quote Originally Posted by Unrepresented View Post
    I'm claiming that advertising works. I don't think that's an outrageous premise.
    It wouldn't be a billion dollar industry if it didn't work.

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    Re: Kochs Plan to Spend $900 Million on 2016 Campaign

    Quote Originally Posted by Unrepresented View Post
    I'm claiming that advertising works. I don't think that's an outrageous premise.
    It may work but it isn't illegal and the bigger problem continues to be the votes being bought not the spending of ones own money to influence a particular vote. Bet you are after the gun manufacturers as well vs. the person pulling the trigger.

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    Re: Kochs Plan to Spend $900 Million on 2016 Campaign

    Quote Originally Posted by rabbitcaebannog View Post
    It wouldn't be a billion dollar industry if it didn't work.
    Yes, and Gruber wouldn't have the opportunity to properly define the liberal base either.

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    Re: Kochs Plan to Spend $900 Million on 2016 Campaign

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Yes, and Gruber wouldn't have the opportunity to properly define the liberal base either.
    I've no idea what this has to do with my statement.

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    Re: Kochs Plan to Spend $900 Million on 2016 Campaign

    Quote Originally Posted by rabbitcaebannog View Post
    I've no idea what this has to do with my statement.
    Is there any amount of money that will buy your vote? That is the point, only the stupid voter as Gruber stated buy the rhetoric and are influenced by rhetoric which is all that advertising is.

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    Re: Kochs Plan to Spend $900 Million on 2016 Campaign

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    It may work but it isn't illegal and the bigger problem continues to be the votes being bought not the spending of ones own money to influence a particular vote. Bet you are after the gun manufacturers as well vs. the person pulling the trigger.
    I don't see there being a particular distinction between influencing the voters and influencing the politicians. Both produce the same result and both are qualities of plutocracies. Both should be avoided.
    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Is there any amount of money that will buy your vote? That is the point, only the stupid voter as Gruber stated buy the rhetoric and are influenced by rhetoric which is all that advertising is.
    We both buy the rhetoric, the only difference is the source of our respective rhetoric.
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    Re: Kochs Plan to Spend $900 Million on 2016 Campaign

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Is there any amount of money that will buy your vote? That is the point, only the stupid voter as Gruber stated buy the rhetoric and are influenced by rhetoric which is all that advertising is.
    ....and my point is advertising obviously works. People buy into sound bites all the time.

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