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    Re: Kochs Plan to Spend $900 Million on 2016 Campaign

    Quote Originally Posted by PureVanilla View Post
    I agree. But the Kochs are far right wing Republicans who throw their support to the Tea Party candidates. That's what this thread is about. Their money and influence. And they want to drag God into the mix along with taking away women's rights and putting gays back in the closet. But they will make sure illegal immigrants stay here and work because they are all for paying millions of people $3 an hour under the table.
    Are you rejecting those who want to restore the Constitution to its rightful place in our lives and form of government? I hope the money will be well spent in getting Constitutional Conservatives into additional positions to prevent the further spread of authoritarian statism.

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    Re: Kochs Plan to Spend $900 Million on 2016 Campaign

    Quote Originally Posted by PureVanilla View Post
    I agree. But the Kochs are far right wing Republicans who throw their support to the Tea Party candidates.
    Can you provide a few examples of far right wing Republicans? What makes them far right to you? Is it because they are highly successful and provide good, non-government jobs to tens of thousands of people?

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    Re: Kochs Plan to Spend $900 Million on 2016 Campaign

    Quote Originally Posted by Dittohead not! View Post
    Money is not speech, money is, well, money. Being able to purchase a louder voice than anyone else is not freedom of speech, nor is being able to legally bribe politicians to get what you want. None of that is what the founders intended.

    There should be strict limits on how much money any politician can take and can spend to be elected.
    Your view, while interesting, is simply untrue. Nice try though.

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    Re: Kochs Plan to Spend $900 Million on 2016 Campaign

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    So you would deny an individuals right to spend their money the way they see fit vs. solving the problem by getting rid of politicians that are bought? Interesting. So when you stop people from spending on things you don't agree with what is next?
    We have many laws that limit how you can spend your money.

    Try buying a nuclear weapon, or a hit man, or Cuban cigars.

    Your money is only yours to spend if approved.
    "The side that stays within its fortifications is beaten." ~Napoleon

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    Re: Kochs Plan to Spend $900 Million on 2016 Campaign

    Quote Originally Posted by Unrepresented View Post
    We have many laws that limit how you can spend your money.

    Try buying a nuclear weapon, or a hit man, or Cuban cigars.

    Your money is only yours to spend if approved.
    Yeah, always was scared as hell of someone spending their money to influence politicians. Didn't realize that my spending was a vote in Congress. Hmmm, missed that in basic civics

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    Re: Kochs Plan to Spend $900 Million on 2016 Campaign

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Yeah, always was scared as hell of someone spending their money to influence politicians. Didn't realize that my spending was a vote in Congress. Hmmm, missed that in basic civics
    Are you arguing that campaign spending has no effect on voters or the politicians elected?
    "The side that stays within its fortifications is beaten." ~Napoleon

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    Re: Kochs Plan to Spend $900 Million on 2016 Campaign

    Quote Originally Posted by Misterveritis View Post
    Your view, while interesting, is simply untrue. Nice try though.
    Untrue = not in agreement with your world view.
    "Donald Trump is a phony, a fraud... [he's] playing the American public for suckers." Mitt Romney

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    Re: Kochs Plan to Spend $900 Million on 2016 Campaign

    Quote Originally Posted by Unrepresented View Post
    Are you arguing that campaign spending has no effect on voters or the politicians elected?
    Term limits is the answer, not restricting how much an individual can contribute to a political campaign. Why aren't you campaigning against those whose vote you believe has been bought?

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    Re: Kochs Plan to Spend $900 Million on 2016 Campaign

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Term limits is the answer, not restricting how much an individual can contribute to a political campaign. Why aren't you campaigning against those whose vote you believe has been bought?
    My campaign is a candle to the sun with the billion dollars that rival interests are spending.
    "The side that stays within its fortifications is beaten." ~Napoleon

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    Re: Kochs Plan to Spend $900 Million on 2016 Campaign

    Quote Originally Posted by Unrepresented View Post
    We have many laws that limit how you can spend your money.

    Try buying a nuclear weapon, or a hit man, or Cuban cigars.

    Your money is only yours to spend if approved.
    Tyrants and wannabe tyrants support such things.

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