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    Re: Kochs Plan to Spend $900 Million on 2016 Campaign

    Quote Originally Posted by OrphanSlug "Why does money from the left get a pass but Koch money gets scrutiny?"

    1. With some exceptions (ie. Soros) money from the left comes from organizations representing thousands of people who made modest donations, not just a handful of extremely rich people.

    2. Most of the causes championed by the left do not financially benefit a small number of people. Most of the causes championed by the right do financially benefit only a small number of people who are already rich and powerful.

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    Re: Kochs Plan to Spend $900 Million on 2016 Campaign

    The difference with Koch money is that it gets spent early and often, trashing Senators like Kay Hagan, driving up their negatives.
    Meanwhile, DEMs had their collective thumbs up their asses, spending too late when minds were made up or turned off.

    Nice that DEMs felt sorry for GOPs over Christmas 2013 by not pounding them on the shutdown.
    GOPs didn't have that problem with niceties, trashing the ACA rollout over Christmas .
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    Re: Kochs Plan to Spend $900 Million on 2016 Campaign

    Quote Originally Posted by Grand Mal View Post
    Here's an idea. Auction the Presidency! Money ahead, put it into general revenue. Hell, it couldn't be a worse system than the crapshoot a federal election is now.
    You guys are pretending that your side isn't spending money just as fast

    Those 35k.dinners that the president has sure aren't for libraries now are they?
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    Re: Kochs Plan to Spend $900 Million on 2016 Campaign

    Some say that, under the Citizens United ruling that unions contribute more to Democrats than the Kochs do to republicans, while others say that the Kochs are buying up our democracy in bigger numbers.
    Fact is that they are about a wash, canceling each other out.
    Citizens United hasn't really changed the balance much at all.
    I believe the SCOTUS thought this all through before they ruled on it.

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    Re: Kochs Plan to Spend $900 Million on 2016 Campaign

    Quote Originally Posted by gdgyva View Post
    You guys are pretending that your side isn't spending money just as fast

    Those 35k.dinners that the president has sure aren't for libraries now are they?
    Nuttin' to do with me. I'm not American, and if I were I wouldn't be a Democrat. Well, who can say how I'd think if I grew up in America, but neither party looks like liberal to me.
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    Re: Kochs Plan to Spend $900 Million on 2016 Campaign

    Which side gets the most money remains unclear. What is clear is that tv is going to absolutely suck with a tidal wave of those commercials designed for IQs of 45.

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    Re: Kochs Plan to Spend $900 Million on 2016 Campaign

    Quote Originally Posted by Hard Truth View Post
    Woopee! We're going to have the best President and representatives that money can buy.

    How do you know they're the best?

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    Re: Kochs Plan to Spend $900 Million on 2016 Campaign

    Quote Originally Posted by Crosscheck View Post
    Which side gets the most money remains unclear. What is clear is that tv is going to absolutely suck with a tidal wave of those commercials designed for IQs of 45.
    Oh, they do not just stick to TV. My state was in play in 2012. "Americans for <<insert any term you want here>>" just about worked my poor mail carrier to death. Between September and the election, I bet I was averaging a good 12-15 political mailers per week and, when we bothered to answer the telephone, at least 3 or 4 polling calls a week, people from other states (read union workers)/college volunteers canvasing our neighborhood every few weeks. It was insane. The week before the election, we had to turn the ringer on the telephone off--non-stop pollsters and robo-callers.

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    Re: Kochs Plan to Spend $900 Million on 2016 Campaign

    Quote Originally Posted by JANFU View Post
    And they do this due to their love for their country. Thoughts are?

    Kochs Plan to Spend $900 Million on 2016 Campaign

    http://www.nytimes.com/2015/01/27/us...=top-news&_r=0

    The political network overseen by the conservative billionaires Charles G. and David H. Koch plans to spend close to $900 million on the 2016 campaign, an unparalelled effort by outside groups to shape a presidential election that is already on track to be the most expensive in history.

    The goal, revealed Monday at the Kochs’ annual winter donor retreat near Palm Springs, Calif., would effectively allow their political organization to operate at the same financial scale as the Democratic and Republican parties. In the last presidential election, the Republican National Committee and the party’s two congressional campaign committees spent a total of $657 million.
    How much of it will be in dark money where we won't know that they are spending?

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    Re: Kochs Plan to Spend $900 Million on 2016 Campaign

    Quote Originally Posted by Lutherf View Post
    Out of curiosity, if someone really liked "Brand X" peanut butter and decided to initiate a campaign to get more people to like the brand would you have a problem with that? What if they spent $900M to get you to change from "Brand Y" to their preferred brand?
    ... not exactly the same thing....

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