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    Re: Kochs Plan to Spend $900 Million on 2016 Campaign

    Quote Originally Posted by shrubnose View Post
    But there are a few things that they can't buy - like your vote and my vote.
    Whether our votes are for sale is irrelevant.


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    That's what dooms their plans to failure.
    What they are doing is not aimed at those who vote party line like you do.
    So there is no failure in regards to you or anyone like you.


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    The next occupant of the White House will be a Democrat.

    Wait and see.
    Irrelevant. Unlikely but still irrelevant.
    And it wont be Hillary. Wait and see.
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    Re: Kochs Plan to Spend $900 Million on 2016 Campaign

    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
    The CEO is responsible for the entire company he is tasked with running. He's responsible for every dollar that is spent, every dollar that is earned, every building that is bought, every product that is developed, every supplier and vendor, every toilet that is flushed, every safety violation, every penny of shareholder equity, the customers, application of and adherence to laws, the communities, strategy, long term goals, short term planning, philanthropic endeavors, finance, budget, reporting, etc. Maybe you don't know what a CEO does?

    Unions are hired by someone in need of labor. Union leaders don't have ownership of the above when they are hired by the CEO of AT&T. The union leader is only responsible for the hired labor.
    The CEO isn't responsible for everything, except to their board. Labor ultimately does the work. Both sides contribute, but the idea that one side is "responsible" for success while the other rides coattails is unrealistic.
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    Re: Kochs Plan to Spend $900 Million on 2016 Campaign

    Quote Originally Posted by Geoist View Post
    We all have a right to breathe unpolluted air.
    No you don't.
    You have a right to petition the Government for redress of your grievance, but as of yet there is nothing enunciated anywhere within the Constitution that says you have a "right" to breathe unpolluted air.

    If that were the case, automobiles and chimneys would have been outlawed long ago.
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    Re: Kochs Plan to Spend $900 Million on 2016 Campaign

    Quote Originally Posted by Unrepresented View Post
    You shouldn't be concerned that billionaires may end up slightly poorer, after all, they'll still be in the top 1% on earth, using your logic.
    No, you want them at $100K.
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    Re: Kochs Plan to Spend $900 Million on 2016 Campaign

    Quote Originally Posted by SlevinKelevra View Post
    glad you support Obamacare, let alone Plessy

    Good night.
    Regarding Plessy, what the SCOTUS gave the SCOTUS took away. As for Obamacare, I think it's bad policy but not unconstitutional.
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    Re: Kochs Plan to Spend $900 Million on 2016 Campaign

    Quote Originally Posted by Mustachio View Post
    Was the emancipation proclamation the government rationing our right to personal property?
    Sorry, but the analogy doesn't follow.
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    Re: Kochs Plan to Spend $900 Million on 2016 Campaign

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    No, you want them at $100K.
    That's still in the top 1% internationally, which according to the thread's namesake is acceptable income.
    "The side that stays within its fortifications is beaten." ~Napoleon

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    Re: Kochs Plan to Spend $900 Million on 2016 Campaign

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Hays View Post
    Sorry, but the analogy doesn't follow.
    It doesn't follow to you because you don't care that we're losing our right to democratically elected leaders because of people like the Koch Brothers who are purchasing democracy. You'd rather they have the freedom to own the system than for the system to remain free, just as those who supported slavery believed the freedom to own a human being was more important than for a person to remain free.
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    Re: Kochs Plan to Spend $900 Million on 2016 Campaign

    Quote Originally Posted by Mustachio View Post
    It doesn't follow to you because you don't care that we're losing our right to democratically elected leaders because of people like the Koch Brothers who are purchasing democracy. You'd rather they have the freedom to own the system than for the system to remain free, just as those who supported slavery believed the freedom to own a human being was more important than for a person to remain free.
    A laughably tortured and roundabout argument. I believe in free, unrationed political speech.
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    Re: Kochs Plan to Spend $900 Million on 2016 Campaign

    Quote Originally Posted by ocean515 View Post
    The issue was compensation if I recall. A CEO can grow a company, or destroy it. Labor just checks in, and checks out.
    This is a fairly one sided depiction of management/labor relations. Neither side can perform without the other. Leadership alone doesn't drive nails, provide patches, interact with customers, win accounts, or design new products.

    The emphasis on leadership at the expense of the many backs, minds, and hands who executed that vision is disturbing.
    "The side that stays within its fortifications is beaten." ~Napoleon

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