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    Re: Kochs Plan to Spend $900 Million on 2016 Campaign

    Quote Originally Posted by JasperL View Post
    You're contradicting yourself in the same post. The "socialism" that the left in America "glorifies" is roughly "governments like Canada." It's certainly nothing like the former Soviet bloc countries (or Cuba) that you're calling examples of "socialism" (and, yes, I've been there..). I'm sure some on the "left" favor that, but some on the right are fascists and outright white supremacists, and it would be illegitimate to describe the define the conservative MOVEMENT by its most radical fringe elements.

    It's part of the problem - "socialism" in America means roughly, positions "ideologically left of me."


    Please read the post again, then stop translating with your own propaganda.

    I said NOTHING about the Canadian GOVERNMENT vis-a-vis socialism, I clearly stated that American progressives who call themselves "liberal" have almost exactly the same platform as Canada's socialist, self described "social democratic" New Democratic Party, who have thier organizers train with your Democrats.

    The Liberal Party of Canada, to which I belong, is the centrist party and liberal, while the Conservative Party of Canada is the "conservative" party.

    You see, we are at least honest about about who is what.
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    Re: Kochs Plan to Spend $900 Million on 2016 Campaign

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Wonder how many union members know what their leaders make?

    Union bosses' salaries put 'big' in Big Labor - Washington Times

    Why would any union member support such salaries for people who do so little?
    I thought you were going to show they made hundreds of times what the average worker does, like ceo's.

    You're talking like ten times or less.
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    Re: Kochs Plan to Spend $900 Million on 2016 Campaign

    Quote Originally Posted by Fearandloathing View Post
    You know, you make less and less sense as time goes on.

    What the **** are you on about toilets and ****....?

    You don't get the basic premise that "poor" is relative, and defined differently.

    You do no service to yourself by dumbing down the debate with typical progressive over-simplification.
    You're the one claiming these people aren't poor because they may or may not have an item that can be bought for a few hundred dollars.
    Ted Cruz is the dumbest person alive.

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    Re: Kochs Plan to Spend $900 Million on 2016 Campaign

    Quote Originally Posted by Fearandloathing View Post
    Please read the post again, then stop translating with your own propaganda.
    When you say this:

    "Poland was the People's Socialist Republic, was a true democratic republic [with one party like the US in 1776] but you would be "disappeared" for hanging with the wrong crowd or imprisoned for trading in American blue jeans. Over 20,000 political prisoners...that sir, is socialism."
    And then follow with this:

    "The left in America glorifies socialism"
    You're either being dishonest or just hopelessly confusing, and I'm not sure which. No one but the whack job fringe elements on the "left" glorifies anything like the regime in Poland. It's BS. Or you meant something else....

    I said NOTHING about the Canadian GOVERNMENT vis-a-vis socialism,
    Uh, quoting you, "What you might call socialism are governments like Canada"

    I clearly stated that American progressives who call themselves "liberal" have almost exactly the same platform as Canada's socialist, self described "social democratic" New Democratic Party, who have thier organizers train with your Democrats.
    Could be but that's not an easily defined group. I'm part of the "left" and if you asked 10 liberals about the platform of "liberal" progressives, you'd get 10 different answers. And I briefly looked up the NDP's platform and I don't see that it looks anything like the political systems in the former Soviet bloc, which you called "socialism." If it does, then I and most on the left that I read and listen to would object their views out of hand.

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    Re: Kochs Plan to Spend $900 Million on 2016 Campaign

    Quote Originally Posted by What if...? View Post
    I thought you were going to show they made hundreds of times what the average worker does, like ceo's.

    You're talking like ten times or less.
    CEO's have major job responsibilities and are the job creators, what do Union bosses create? You think union members have any idea what their leadership makes?

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    Re: Kochs Plan to Spend $900 Million on 2016 Campaign

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    Re: Kochs Plan to Spend $900 Million on 2016 Campaign

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    CEO's have major job responsibilities and are the job creators, what do Union bosses create? You think union members have any idea what their leadership makes?
    Union leaders have major responsibilities, they're responsible for negotiating and upholding contracts that benefit their workers.
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    Re: Kochs Plan to Spend $900 Million on 2016 Campaign

    Quote Originally Posted by ReverendHellh0und View Post
    Anyone?
    I think that's about the 10th time for that straw man in this thread!

    Short answer, already answered nine times - Yes. We care about Soros.

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    Re: Kochs Plan to Spend $900 Million on 2016 Campaign

    Quote Originally Posted by Unrepresented View Post
    Union leaders have major responsibilities, they're responsible for negotiating and upholding contracts that benefit their workers.
    And that warrants 6 digit salaries and benefits paid for out of union dues? Where does the CEO wages and benefits come from? Negotiating must be extremely hard work and I always thought the courts upheld contracts?

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    Re: Kochs Plan to Spend $900 Million on 2016 Campaign

    Quote Originally Posted by JasperL View Post
    I think that's about the 10th time for that straw man in this thread!

    Short answer, already answered nine times - Yes. We care about Soros.


    That's not what a strawman is, you could try to claim it's a red herring, but it's not one of those either.


    IF you care about him, can you show me one thread by the left attacking him like they did these koke people.
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