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    Re: Kochs Plan to Spend $900 Million on 2016 Campaign

    Quote Originally Posted by shrubnose View Post
    I predict that conservatives will be underrepresented in the White House after 2016. No matter how much money the Koch brothers spend.

    Wait and see.


    You also predicted the Democrats would win back the House and keep the senate in the last election.
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    Re: Kochs Plan to Spend $900 Million on 2016 Campaign

    Quote Originally Posted by Geoist View Post
    C'mon, conservatives don't bemoan? They are constantly bickering and crying over the policies of our "socialist" president. You're a smart guy John and I like you but that's kind of silly.
    True, and I enjoy out discussions too, but I never said that conservatives don't complain about what they don't like - but generally they try to change it through their actions not through their complaints. And I've never referred to Obama as a socialist President - just an incompetent one.
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    Re: Kochs Plan to Spend $900 Million on 2016 Campaign

    Quote Originally Posted by Fenton View Post
    Bull, the Unions donate to and support the Democrat Party and have been for decades.

    The last Union I was in didn't ask me wether or not I wanted my Union dues to go to a Conservative or Progressive candidate.

    They took it upon their selves to make that decision for me.

    Face it, you guys lost your monopoly and now all you can do is hypocritically complain about political donations coming from large private organizations.
    Why would a union member vote directly against their own interests?

    Do ANY conservatives support unions? Or are they all trying to do away with them completely?
    Anyone wondering what I'm talking about start here:
    The Psychology of Persuasion

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    Re: Kochs Plan to Spend $900 Million on 2016 Campaign

    Quote Originally Posted by polgara View Post
    Greetings, JasperL.

    Since there are 47 million people on food stamps, and countless others on some kind of government assistance, doesn't this indicate there is a big deficiency on the part of our elected leadership in DC? They are the ones steering our ship of state, not the people suffering in this country! We have gone from bad to worse in the past few years - why is this? We are not a third world country, so when does all this bull**** stop? How much are our little incursions in countries in the ME costing us - not only in dollars, but goodwill? They now hate us more than they ever did, and they are also getting more brazen than they ever were before! That sure doesn't look like a winning strategy to me! Meanwhile, too many are suffering here, and that's not right!.

    If the Kochs can, in some way, find a way through legislation to provide decent-paying jobs for people who want to work, their money will be well spent, IMO! On the other hand, it looks like Soros wants to continue our downward trend to third-world status! How many jobs has Soros provided, other than those he created through various agencies for people to work on his agenda of keeping the poor dependent upon government? Why isn't he advocating for a better life for people here and the rest of the world, instead of the one-world-government he appears to favor, where everyone but the elite become serfs? Screw that!


    41 million people....more than the population of Canada.

    How many of them have satellite dishes and 50" screens?
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    Re: Kochs Plan to Spend $900 Million on 2016 Campaign

    Quote Originally Posted by Geoist View Post
    Is bribing a state official "free speech?"
    If verbalized, yes - the government could not legally stop you from publicly pronouncing a bribe. But the act of bribing is also illegal. If someone is going to bribe a government official, the authorities would be delighted if the briber would verbalize his/her bribe and verbally identify the politician or public servant being bribed - it would make their jobs easier.
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    Re: Kochs Plan to Spend $900 Million on 2016 Campaign

    Quote Originally Posted by What if...? View Post
    IDK. Your argument is pretty weak.

    Do you have some evidence that Soros and his ilk are utilizing donor anonymity loopholes as the Koch groups do?

    I suspect they are, but do you have proof?
    Of course there is proof. Why would you ask for it? Are you suggesting Soros and Company are different than Koch groups? Why would they operated any differently? Do you have proof they operate differently?

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    Re: Kochs Plan to Spend $900 Million on 2016 Campaign

    Quote Originally Posted by What if...? View Post
    Why would a union member vote directly against their own interests?

    Do ANY conservatives support unions? Or are they all trying to do away with them completely?
    There are conservatives trying to do away with unions? Which ones? Oh, and just for the record, many union members are conservative, so what is it you are talking about?

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    Re: Kochs Plan to Spend $900 Million on 2016 Campaign

    Quote Originally Posted by What if...? View Post
    Why would a union member vote directly against their own interests?

    Do ANY conservatives support unions? Or are they all trying to do away with them completely?
    Wonder how many union members know what their leaders make?

    Union bosses' salaries put 'big' in Big Labor - Washington Times

    Why would any union member support such salaries for people who do so little?

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    Re: Kochs Plan to Spend $900 Million on 2016 Campaign

    Only in America

    20 Only In America Ironies - John Hawkins - Page full

    1) Only in America could politicians talk about the greed of the rich at a $35,000 a plate campaign fund raising event.

    2) Only in America could people claim that the government still discriminates against black Americans when we have a black President, a black Attorney General, and roughly 18% of the federal workforce is black.

    3) Only in America could we have had the two people most responsible for our tax code, Timothy Geithner, the head of the Treasury Department and Charles Rangel who once ran the Ways and Means Committee, BOTH turn out to be tax cheats who are in favor of higher taxes.

    4) Only in America will you find people who burn the American flag and call America an "imperialist nation," but who get offended if you say they're not patriotic.

    5) Only in America can we have terrorists kill people in the name of Allah and have the media primarily react by fretting that Muslims might be harmed by the backlash.

    6) Only in America could someone drinking a $5 latte and texting to his friends on an iPhone 4 complain that the government allows some people to make too much money.

    7) Only in America would people take rappers who brag about shooting people and selling drugs seriously when they complain the police are targeting them unfairly.

    8) Only in America would we make people who want to legally become American citizens wait for years in their home countries and pay tens of thousands of dollars for the privilege while we discuss letting anyone who sneaks into the country illegally just become American citizens.

    9) Only in America could the people who believe in balancing the budget and sticking by the country's Constitution be thought of as "extremists."

    10) Only in America could the most vicious foes of successful conservative women be self-proclaimed feminists and the National Organization for Women.

    11) Only in America could you need to present a driver's license to cash a check or buy alcohol, but not to vote.

    12) Only in America can we have terrorists fly planes into our buildings and have some people’s first thought be "what did we do to make them hate us?"

    13) Only in America would we think teaching kids at college is an appropriate job for communists, terrorists, and other dregs of humanity.

    14) Only in America could people demand the government investigate whether the oil companies are gouging the public because the price of gas went up when for every penny of profit the oil companies make, the government tacks on roughly 24 cents’ worth of taxes.

    15) Only in America could the first people asked to weigh in on the seriousness of a racial incident by the media be professional race hustlers like Jesse Jackson, Al Sharpton, and Ben Jealous. In other words, it's like calling in a car dealer as a neutral source on whether or not you need to get a new car.

    16) Only in America does airport security put its hands on your underwear....while you're wearing it.

    17) Only in America could the government force a skating rink to have handicapped parking spots and Braille on the ATM machines.

    18) Only in America could the government collect more tax dollars from the people than any nation ever has before in all of recorded history, still spend a trillion dollars more that it has per year, and complain that it doesn't have nearly enough money.

    19) Only in America could the rich people who pay 86% of all income taxes be accused of not paying their "fair share" by people who don't pay any income taxes at all.

    20) Only in America could the people who approve of slaughtering 25 million females babies via abortion accuse OTHER PEOPLE of waging a "war on women."

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    Re: Kochs Plan to Spend $900 Million on 2016 Campaign

    Quote Originally Posted by Mustachio View Post
    It would be funny to see how the opinion of some posters here will radically change when two Muslim trillionaires start shelling out billions of dollars to strategically back Muslim candidates and defeat Christian ones. Claims that it's a matter of free speech that we allow the system to be owned and manipulated by corporations see a little manufactured to me. I could understand it if somebody said that giving $100 to a local Congressman is an extension of your free speech. I do not understand somebody saying that creating a nationwide effort to manipulate policy in the manner the Koch brothers have done it (honing in on local elections that can be won with money to create Republican majorities on the statewide level) is free speech. It seems no different that what Tammany Hall did except it's on a much bigger scale.
    I take it, from your comments, that you strongly oppose the corporate ownership of virtually all US media, print and over the air, creating their "nationwide effort to manipulate policy" in the manner they prefer. Correct?
    "Liberals claim to want to give a hearing to other views, but then are shocked and offended to discover that there are other views." William F. Buckley Jr.

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