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    Re: Kochs Plan to Spend $900 Million on 2016 Campaign

    Quote Originally Posted by Unrepresented View Post
    When you have to compete with billionaires for a "chance," most of the time you're going to lose.
    Billionaires make their own chances. But by that logic if I make $100K/yr I get more chances than someone making $10K/yr. So why don't we just go straight to communism where everyone makes $10K/yr, right?
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    Re: Kochs Plan to Spend $900 Million on 2016 Campaign

    Quote Originally Posted by ARealConservative View Post
    this is about the 2016 election, or peanut butter. How did it become about the president?
    What do you think the 2016 election is about? let me fill you in.....THE PRESIDENT.
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    Re: Kochs Plan to Spend $900 Million on 2016 Campaign

    Quote Originally Posted by JasperL View Post
    Right, and I didn't say they were wealthy. Very confused.....
    Okay let's look at it this way, we have the biggest govt in history right now in DC, and you complain about wealth distribution. It really kills your argument.
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    Re: Kochs Plan to Spend $900 Million on 2016 Campaign

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    Billionaires make their own chances. But by that logic if I make $100K/yr I get more chances than someone making $10K/yr.
    So why don't we just go straight to communism where everyone makes $10K/yr, right?


    The difference between Communism and Socialism is that under Communism, 'everyone wearing glasses gets their heads smashed in with rifle butts' and under Socialism, 'drinks and smokes are on the middle class'.

    Which do you prefer?

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    Re: Kochs Plan to Spend $900 Million on 2016 Campaign

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    Okay let's look at it this way, we have the biggest govt in history right now in DC, and you complain about wealth distribution. It really kills your argument.
    You do realize that the same could be said every year of Reagan's administration also don't you?

    We have the biggest government every year. Our population keeps growing.
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    Re: Kochs Plan to Spend $900 Million on 2016 Campaign

    Quote Originally Posted by shrubnose View Post
    No one is stopping them from doing that, but they will not be able to buy the White House.

    Wait and see. They aren't the only people in the USA with some cash.
    Wtf?

    Did I say they could?

    Nor is that how it even works.
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    Re: Kochs Plan to Spend $900 Million on 2016 Campaign

    Quote Originally Posted by Excon View Post
    Wtf?

    Did I say they could?

    Nor is that how it even works.


    The Koch Brothers have a lot of cash and they can buy a lot of things with that cash.

    But there are a few things that they can't buy - like your vote and my vote.

    That's what dooms their plans to failure.

    The next occupant of the White House will be a Democrat.

    Wait and see.

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    Re: Kochs Plan to Spend $900 Million on 2016 Campaign

    Quote Originally Posted by justabubba View Post
    why would public financing be the answer?
    and how would it be structured to prevent abuse?
    Politicians clearly work for those who pay for their campaigns.

    So we the people should pay for their campaigns.

    Plus they spend much of their time at work raising money.
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    Re: Kochs Plan to Spend $900 Million on 2016 Campaign

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    Are you under the impression that this example properly addresses the concerns people have about money and its influence on politics?
    IRS... how quick one forget Obamas illegal action to have the IRS not approve the tax exemption requests of the Tea Party...

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    Re: Kochs Plan to Spend $900 Million on 2016 Campaign

    Quote Originally Posted by ocean515 View Post
    One thing that might be a step in the right direction is that candidates have 30 days to campaign. Of course, the same problems crop up, but at least the bulk of the spending is limited to those 30 days.

    The greater question is how to remove the special interest groups from pushing the greater agenda? Annenberg Trust, a member of the Progressive Machine, has access to our nations public schools through it's Annenberg Learner program. The NEA, the national teachers union, has it's Director as the head of the mighty Democracy Alliance, which is the central core of the Progressive Machine.

    AFSCME is another massive public union spender pushing Progressive agenda's and backing liberal/progressive candidates. The SEIU is also similarly spending and affiliated. While their dues may be collected from the individual government employees, it's the taxpayers who are providing the money. How does this spending get accounted for?



    How do these ongoing enterprises get removed from equation?
    Groups whose money is made up of many voluntary contributions are different from those of wealthy single individuals and corporations.

    They just are. Its just more "democratic". The voice of the many instead of the few.

    That said, I would like to see public financing.
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