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    Re: Kochs Plan to Spend $900 Million on 2016 Campaign

    Quote Originally Posted by americanwoman View Post
    Here is a video about the Koch brother influencing schools with lots of money and professors being forced to teach only one point of view, which is the Koch brothers view.


    [video=youtube_share;6f_7uE2rqWw]http://youtu.be/6f_7uE2rqWw[video]


    Regardless of the veracity of the claims, that is on the school.
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    Re: Kochs Plan to Spend $900 Million on 2016 Campaign

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    Regardless of the veracity of the claims, that is on the school.
    True, the school doesn't have to accept the money but it just shows there are many greedy ones out there that do and have been influenced by it.
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    Re: Kochs Plan to Spend $900 Million on 2016 Campaign

    Quote Originally Posted by americanwoman View Post
    Here is a video about the Koch brother influencing schools with lots of money and professors being forced to teach only one point of view, which is the Koch brothers view.


    Okay, but I wasn't talking about schools.
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    Re: Kochs Plan to Spend $900 Million on 2016 Campaign

    Quote Originally Posted by americanwoman View Post
    True, the school doesn't have to accept the money but it just shows there are many greedy ones out there that do and have been influenced by it.
    No it doesn't show that.
    For all we know, (as I said, regardless of the veracity of the claims) it may well show that the school realized that they were only providing one viewpoint which needed to be corrected.
    Who funds it is irrelevant to that.

    Realizing something isn't being taught does not mean they were influenced by the funding to teach it.
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    Re: Kochs Plan to Spend $900 Million on 2016 Campaign

    Quote Originally Posted by vesper View Post
    Jasper, are you not aware of the numerous voters that come out for a presidential election that can't even tell you what country bombed Peal Harbor in WW11 let alone who is considered to be the "father" of the Constitution? Have you watched the numerous pathetic responses to questions given from people like Leno to many others of people going out into the public targeting the young and dumb college crowd but are old enough to vote and they couldn't pass a 6th grade history exam? These people vote for feel good ideas not what is right for the country. Thanks to our education system too many are too ignorant to make sound judgment. If you promise these folks two free years of community college these folks are on board. If you promise the single moms more entitlements they are on board and so are the dads of all these fatherless "love" children cause that means the daddies are off the hook. If you make a claim that we need public daycare provided by the taxpayers, you got a whole lot of folks ready to vote for you and all are willing to stick it to the one who put his life on hold to achieve an education to land a good job before ever thinking about reproducing. Who was left with a boatload of student loans for his education that will take 15 years to pay off. But yet he becomes successful making good money only to have others willing to tax him/her at a higher rate so they can get the freebies. Says a lot for the condition of our society doesn't it. But lets not blame everything on the young and dumb because there are a lot of senior citizens in our society that think even though they didn't prepare for their retirement that somehow they are special and think the younger generation and the generation after them is suppose to pick up the tab. What's wrong with this picture? But yet most of the media is promoting such an agenda.
    I'll just say lots of informed, intelligent, reasonable people have major disagreements about what is right for the country, and have had similar disagreements for generations at least. Beyond that I'm not sure how to respond. It's like we're having two different conversations.

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    Re: Kochs Plan to Spend $900 Million on 2016 Campaign

    Inside the Koch brothers' campus crusade | Center for Public Integrity

    Donor gifts, regardless of their size, have always been accepted with the clear understanding that the gift will not compromise academic integrity or infringe on the academic freedom of our faculty,” said Florida State University spokesman Dennis Schnittker, whose school in 2012 received more than $297,000 from the Charles Koch Foundation that primarily funded graduate student fellowships in its economics department.

    But this isn’t always clear.

    When, for example, the Charles Koch Foundation in 2011 pledged $1.5 million to Florida State University’s economics department, a contract between the foundation and university stipulated that a Koch-appointed advisory committee select professors and conduct annual evaluations, the Tampa Bay Times reported.

    And to be sure, the Koch foundations’ educational grants, regardless of whether they’re made with conditions, aren’t exactly supporting studies of, say, proletarian emancipation or historical materialism.

    Instead, they routinely support academic programs or centers that teach theories and principles aligned with the Kochs’ convictions about economics and public policy.



    The Charles Koch Foundation, which among the various Koch-connected private foundations spent the most on higher education, did tell the IRS in a 2012 filing that it primarily supports “research and education programs that analyze the impact of free societies” and focuses on “a select number of programs where it believes it is best positioned to support positive social change.”

    Charles Koch in 2012 contributed more than $60 million to his eponymous foundation, which ended that year with more than $216 million in reported assets.

    Competition from Democratic political bankrollers

    The Kochs are hardly alone in funding academia: Other prominent political donors — liberal and conservative both — operate private charitable foundations that in part support educational programs and institutions.


    Billionaire financier and Democratic megadonor George Soros is chief among them. He’s pumped tens of millions of dollars into educational interests in recent years through a network of private foundations that together boast several times the reported assets that the Koch foundations do.

    But the most significant educational contributions Soros made either in 2011 or 2012, when most recent tax forms are available, didn’t fund U.S. colleges and scholars like the Kochs, but foreign ones.

    Central European University, an English-language university in Hungary that Soros himself founded, leads all his recipients, taking almost $9 million from the Soros-funded Foundation to Promote Open Society. The university describes itself as promoting “the pursuit of truth wherever it leads, respect for the diversity of cultures and peoples, and commitment to resolve differences through debate not denial.”

    The Open Society Institute, another Soros-fueled private foundation, spread about $9.43 million through 900 foreign student grants. The students received the money with the charge they “improve academic, social and democratic environments in home countries,” according to the organization’s tax filings.

    Soros’ domestic educational investments, while significant, aren’t as sizable.

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    Re: Kochs Plan to Spend $900 Million on 2016 Campaign

    Quote Originally Posted by Excon View Post
    No it doesn't show that.
    For all we know, (as I said, regardless of the veracity of the claims) it may well show that the school realized that they were only providing one viewpoint which needed to be corrected.
    Who funds it is irrelevant to that.

    Realizing something isn't being taught does not mean they were influenced by the funding to teach it.
    Read the article I linked above.
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    Re: Kochs Plan to Spend $900 Million on 2016 Campaign

    Quote Originally Posted by americanwoman View Post
    Here is a video about the Koch brother influencing schools with lots of money. . . . .
    Sort of like how homosexual perverts influence kids in schools to accept their perversion?

    Or how about this one:

    "El Rancho Verde Unified School District will stop requiring its high-school students to take geography and instead require them to take a class on diversity and inclusion."
    >> School District Replace Teaching of Geography With Diversity | The Federalist Papers

    Pure leftwing propaganda replacing authentic studies in school.


    At least the Koch brothers are on the correct side. If kids are influenced by that, then God bless the Koch brothers.

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    Re: Kochs Plan to Spend $900 Million on 2016 Campaign

    Quote Originally Posted by americanwoman View Post
    Read the article I linked above.
    Read it. It doesn't refute what I said.
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    Re: Kochs Plan to Spend $900 Million on 2016 Campaign

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    The Left likes to pick on the Koch Brothers, so about your Soros?
    LOL, how many times can this same straw man come up in one thread?

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