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    Re: Kochs Plan to Spend $900 Million on 2016 Campaign

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    It always assumed by the Left that the inequality is caused by the evil 1%, and not the government. Of course you won't find a govt study implicating the govt will you? Laws, especially tax laws, have consequences.....many unintended.
    What the hell is the difference when a select few have the majority influence over government? Wealthy people are diverse, and not all wealthy people politically agree. However, political activists like the Koch's and their philosophical values are reflected in candidates they prop up and the policies their candidates propose.

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    Re: Kochs Plan to Spend $900 Million on 2016 Campaign

    Quote Originally Posted by SheWolf View Post
    Your comments are cherry picked half truths. Of course interested parties have always tried to influence legislation. There is no denial there. But what is happening in America is NEW, and goes beyond trying to influence legislation. Never before have an elite, wealthy few had so much influence over the government that the government requires the taxpayers to subsidize their losses, but their gains are privatized. How do you call the capitalism? It's not. It's cronyism.
    What you describe is neither new nor threatening.
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    Re: Kochs Plan to Spend $900 Million on 2016 Campaign

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    The myth of the MSNM has got be one of the dumbest myths invented by the right-wing...sorry but only the biggest fools buy into that one.
    yeah the fact that more than 85% of the MSNM journalists covering presidential campaigns admitted voting Democrat over the last 14 or so elections doesn't mean anything

    Media Bias Basics



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    Re: Kochs Plan to Spend $900 Million on 2016 Campaign

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Hays View Post
    What you describe is neither new nor threatening.
    You posts are becoming less and less thoughtful, and you come across like a conformist with no sense of individualism.

    Well, if you don't give a crap about having to bailout irresponsible corporations, nor are you concerned about doing it again in the future, then that's you. I don't understand it or relate.

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    Re: Kochs Plan to Spend $900 Million on 2016 Campaign

    Quote Originally Posted by Lutherf View Post
    Out of curiosity, if someone really liked "Brand X" peanut butter and decided to initiate a campaign to get more people to like the brand would you have a problem with that? What if they spent $900M to get you to change from "Brand Y" to their preferred brand?
    That's an obsession with peanut butter that goes far beyond any sane reasoning.
    Ted Cruz is the dumbest person alive.

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    Re: Kochs Plan to Spend $900 Million on 2016 Campaign

    Quote Originally Posted by SheWolf View Post
    You posts are becoming less and less thoughtful, and you come across like a conformist with no sense of individualism.

    Well, if you don't give a crap about having to bailout irresponsible corporations, nor are you concerned about doing it again in the future, then that's you. I don't understand it or relate.
    My posts are as thoughtful as the topic deserves. I'm simply not worried about the things that seem to have you so spun up. Powerful, wealthy interests have always tried to protect themselves and will continue to do so. The antidote is other powerful, wealthy interests in competition. The Kochs are neither more benign nor more menacing than other wealthy dabblers in politics. They are merely the targets of a partisan campaign that seems to have caught your attention.
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    Re: Kochs Plan to Spend $900 Million on 2016 Campaign

    Quote Originally Posted by SheWolf View Post
    You posts are becoming less and less thoughtful, and you come across like a conformist with no sense of individualism.

    Well, if you don't give a crap about having to bailout irresponsible corporations, nor are you concerned about doing it again in the future, then that's you. I don't understand it or relate.
    You mean like taking over GM? bailing out unions? How about an irresponsible Federal Govt. that wasted SS and Medicare funds so there are trillions in unfunded liabilities. So much wasted time and effort about corporations and ignorance of the worst run organization in the country, the Federal govt.

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    Re: Kochs Plan to Spend $900 Million on 2016 Campaign

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Hays View Post
    My posts are as thoughtful as the topic deserves. I'm simply not worried about the things that seem to have you so spun up. Powerful, wealthy interests have always tried to protect themselves and will continue to do so. The antidote is other powerful, wealthy interests in competition. The Kochs are neither more benign nor more menacing than other wealthy dabblers in politics. They are merely the targets of a partisan campaign that seems to have caught your attention.
    Then you aren't reading my posts. My problem is not with the Koch's specifically, and I was up front about that at the start of this conversation. This thread is simply about the Koch's. I also never claimed the Koch's to be more menacing than any other powerful person, corporation, or union.

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    Re: Kochs Plan to Spend $900 Million on 2016 Campaign

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    You mean like taking over GM? bailing out unions? How about an irresponsible Federal Govt. that wasted SS and Medicare funds so there are trillions in unfunded liabilities. So much wasted time and effort about corporations and ignorance of the worst run organization in the country, the Federal govt.
    According the Jack, none of that is any reason to be upset. It's nothing new, so just go with it...

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    Re: Kochs Plan to Spend $900 Million on 2016 Campaign

    Quote Originally Posted by SheWolf View Post
    Then you aren't reading my posts. My problem is not with the Koch's specifically, and I was up front about that at the start of this conversation. This thread is simply about the Koch's. I also never claimed the Koch's to be more menacing than any other powerful person, corporation, or union.
    Really? My first post to you (#239) was a reply to your #238, which was an attack on the Kochs.
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