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    Re: Kochs Plan to Spend $900 Million on 2016 Campaign

    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
    Thoughts are if you have it to spend, go for it. It's their money to spend as they see fit. I can't imagine spending that kind of money on politics but then again I'm sure they wouldn't understand everything I spend my money on either.
    This is a funny thread. People are saying Hillary can spend up to 2 billion on her campaign.

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    Re: Kochs Plan to Spend $900 Million on 2016 Campaign

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    You talkin' to me? Or yourself?
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    Re: Kochs Plan to Spend $900 Million on 2016 Campaign

    Quote Originally Posted by Lutherf View Post
    Out of curiosity, if someone really liked "Brand X" peanut butter and decided to initiate a campaign to get more people to like the brand would you have a problem with that? What if they spent $900M to get you to change from "Brand Y" to their preferred brand?
    I might have a problem with it if the Koch's destroyed competition and became a monopoly simply because they have more money and can outspend both parties put together. It would be the equivalent of only having one brand of peanut butter to chose from and its artificially flavored.

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    Re: Kochs Plan to Spend $900 Million on 2016 Campaign

    Quote Originally Posted by JANFU View Post
    And they do this due to their love for their country. Thoughts are?

    Kochs Plan to Spend $900 Million on 2016 Campaign

    http://www.nytimes.com/2015/01/27/us...=top-news&_r=0

    The political network overseen by the conservative billionaires Charles G. and David H. Koch plans to spend close to $900 million on the 2016 campaign, an unparalelled effort by outside groups to shape a presidential election that is already on track to be the most expensive in history.

    The goal, revealed Monday at the Kochs’ annual winter donor retreat near Palm Springs, Calif., would effectively allow their political organization to operate at the same financial scale as the Democratic and Republican parties. In the last presidential election, the Republican National Committee and the party’s two congressional campaign committees spent a total of $657 million.
    Good for the Koch brothers! That 900 million might make up for all the funding from the AFL-CIO, ActBlue, American Fed of State Employees Union, American Federation of Teachers, International Brotherhood of Electrical Workers, National Education Association, United Food and Commercial Workers Union, Laborers Union, American Association for Justice, Communication Workers of America, Teamsters Union, United Auto Workers, Communication Workers of America, Plumbers and Pipefitters Union, Newsweb Corp, Emily's List, Sheet Metals Workers Union, National Beer Wholesalers Association, Operating Engineers Union, United Steel Workers, International Association of Fire Workers, Time Warner, Iron Workers Union, Airline Pilots Association, National Air Traffic Controllers Association, American Postal Union, United Transportation Union, University of California, Walt Disney Co., Human Rights Campaign, Saban Capital Group, Skadden Arps Et Al, Seafarers International Union, National Cmte to Preserve Social Security & Medicare, Harvard University, National Rural Letter Carriers Assn , National Cmte for an Effective Congress the Democratic party enjoys.

    https://www.opensecrets.org/orgs/list.php

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    Re: Kochs Plan to Spend $900 Million on 2016 Campaign

    Quote Originally Posted by countryboy View Post
    Can I assume you are equally concerned about the big money influence on the left as well?
    Why wouldn't I be? I am a moderate.

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    Re: Kochs Plan to Spend $900 Million on 2016 Campaign

    Quote Originally Posted by SheWolf View Post
    Why wouldn't I be? I am a moderate.
    You didn't express any.

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    Re: Kochs Plan to Spend $900 Million on 2016 Campaign

    Quote Originally Posted by Unrepresented View Post
    Not even close....
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    Re: Kochs Plan to Spend $900 Million on 2016 Campaign

    Quote Originally Posted by countryboy View Post
    You didn't express any.
    The thread is about the Koch's, so that is why I discussed the Koch's and their power in the right wing. Many corporations donate to both groups, such as Goldman Sachs, so no matter who runs they country Goldman Sachs hold some influence. The Obama Admin has recycled and retained many of the Bush Admin's people on the board of the Federal Reserve. Most of them like Ben Bernanke are former Goldman Sachs people.

    We aren't going to see real political change until big money and lobbyists stop influencing and buying the government.

    I am 100% against the revolving door, big money in politics, and lobbying DC. It leads to corruption.

    Even when I listen to right wing radio, they complain about the "donor class" having too much power in picking an "establishment" candidate like Romney, Jeb, etc. Laura Ingraham specifically says it a lot.

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    Re: Kochs Plan to Spend $900 Million on 2016 Campaign

    Quote Originally Posted by SheWolf View Post
    The thread is about the Koch's, so that is why I discussed the Koch's and their power in the right wing. Many corporations donate to both groups, such as Goldman Sachs, so no matter who runs they country Goldman Sachs hold some influence. The Obama Admin has recycled and retained many of the Bush Admin's people on the board of the Federal Reserve. Most of them like Ben Bernanke are former Goldman Sachs people.

    We aren't going to see real political change until big money and lobbyists stop influencing and buying the government.

    I am 100% against the revolving door, big money in politics, and lobbying DC. It leads to corruption.

    Even when I listen to right wing radio, they complain about the "donor class" having too much power in picking an "establishment" candidate like Romney, Jeb, etc. Laura Ingraham specifically says it a lot.
    "Big money in politics" powers the flow of free, unrationed political speech.
    "It's always reassuring to find you've made the right enemies." -- William J. Donovan

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    Re: Kochs Plan to Spend $900 Million on 2016 Campaign

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Hays View Post
    "Big money in politics" powers the flow of free, unrationed political speech.
    One person, one vote. Giving a select group of people more votes leads to an oligarchy.

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