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    Re: Kochs Plan to Spend $900 Million on 2016 Campaign

    Quote Originally Posted by JANFU View Post
    And they do this due to their love for their country. Thoughts are?

    Kochs Plan to Spend $900 Million on 2016 Campaign

    http://www.nytimes.com/2015/01/27/us...=top-news&_r=0

    The political network overseen by the conservative billionaires Charles G. and David H. Koch plans to spend close to $900 million on the 2016 campaign, an unparalelled effort by outside groups to shape a presidential election that is already on track to be the most expensive in history.

    The goal, revealed Monday at the Kochs’ annual winter donor retreat near Palm Springs, Calif., would effectively allow their political organization to operate at the same financial scale as the Democratic and Republican parties. In the last presidential election, the Republican National Committee and the party’s two congressional campaign committees spent a total of $657 million.

    I wonder how much George Soros and other wealthy liberals are spending on their guys?
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    Re: Kochs Plan to Spend $900 Million on 2016 Campaign

    Quote Originally Posted by EnigmaO01 View Post
    I don't have a problem with anyone making big money as long as they don't encroach on my rights or freedoms.
    I see such wealth disparity as evidence they've already been exploiting the population.
    "The side that stays within its fortifications is beaten." ~Napoleon

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    Re: Kochs Plan to Spend $900 Million on 2016 Campaign

    Quote Originally Posted by beefheart View Post
    How much of it will be in dark money where we won't know that they are spending?

    This country is becoming an oligarchy.
    There's nothing new under the sun.

    In 1898, the trio of Rockerfeller, JP Morgan, and Andrew Carnegie essentially "bought" the presidency for William McKinley.

    Their money and influence were far greater than anything we see today.

    We survived then, and we'll be OK now as well.

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    Re: Kochs Plan to Spend $900 Million on 2016 Campaign

    Quote Originally Posted by Lutherf View Post
    Out of curiosity, if someone really liked "Brand X" peanut butter and decided to initiate a campaign to get more people to like the brand would you have a problem with that? What if they spent $900M to get you to change from "Brand Y" to their preferred brand?
    They'd just as crazy and most of us would think they have waaaay too much money and a completely out of kilter world view on what 900 million would be best used for.

    So let's be honest, Brand X or Brand Y is moot, the Koch Kooks spend 900 MILLION dollars because they think they will get far more from Brand X for spending the money than any 'for the good of the people'...

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    Re: Kochs Plan to Spend $900 Million on 2016 Campaign

    Quote Originally Posted by OrphanSlug View Post
    I can help with that. You would be more likely to get struck by lightning on a clear day *and* attacked by a shark while standing in 2 feet of ocean water all at the same time than winning the Powerball.

    Not bad enough of odds considering lightning can strike from 10 miles away and some sharks can easily navigate 2 feet of water.

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    Re: Kochs Plan to Spend $900 Million on 2016 Campaign

    Quote Originally Posted by Unrepresented View Post
    I see such wealth disparity as evidence they've already been exploiting the population.
    Good point. But we can't go around telling people they have to limit their income.

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    Re: Kochs Plan to Spend $900 Million on 2016 Campaign

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Yet, they say someone does indeed win...And it costs a buck....What can you do these days for a buck?
    Something other than throwing it away?

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    Re: Kochs Plan to Spend $900 Million on 2016 Campaign

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    Choosing a President is a little more important than choosing peanut butter. We are already influenced by China and other countries over the products we purchased. Do you want to allow them to buy our Presidency as well?
    Surely you don't think that any major political party would stoop so low as to seek funds from CHINA, do you?

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    Re: Kochs Plan to Spend $900 Million on 2016 Campaign

    Quote Originally Posted by EnigmaO01 View Post
    Not bad enough of odds considering lightning can strike from 10 miles away and some sharks can easily navigate 2 feet of water.
    Tthe odds are not as good as you think. You have about a 1 and 11 million chance of being attacked by a shark standing in 2 feet of water, and about a 1 and 3 million chance of being struck by lightning (when there is supposed to be lightning.)

    Odds of hitting the powerball grand prize, about 1 and 175 million. Good luck!
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    Re: Kochs Plan to Spend $900 Million on 2016 Campaign

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    I wonder how much George Soros and other wealthy liberals are spending on their guys?
    They're not. They are nobly sacrificing of themselves and devoting their own resources to public education and the improvement of the disenfranchised and systemically prejudiced against. Oh, and you're a racist.




    So, actually bothering to read part of the article, it looks like the Kochs aren't spending $900 million, it looks like they are trying to get 300 of their fellow donors all in together to come up with a joint sum of $889 million over the course of the campaign. The interesting part to me is:

    ...At least five potential presidential candidates were invited this year, and four attended, including Gov. Scott Walker of Wisconsin. On Sunday evening, three of them — Senators Marco Rubio of Florida, Rand Paul of Kentucky and Ted Cruz of Texas — took part in a candidate forum on economic issues....
    So, no Romney, no Bush, no Christie. Of those four, Walker and Rubio are the most likely to pick up the majority of donor support.

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