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    Re: On ‘Face the Nation,’ Senators Feinstein, McCain Call For More U.S. Troops In M.E

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    Mentally sure there is.....like I said. All you need do. Is listen to them cry and whine about not reaching Allah. Listen to them talk about what those means are.

    Its what they believe remember. Just like with being killed by women.

    Think how you can mess with their heads.....if women assassins are killing them in the night. In the dark, where they fear most.....they even die believing they wont see or be with their deity. Doesn't get much better than that to destroy them mentally.
    I have debated a lot of Muslims and I have yet to ever hear a single one of them say that if they were sprayed with bacon grease or set on fire or killed by a woman, their "salvation" would be one tiny bit damaged. The same thing can be said for Christians, their religious book says they can't eat shellfish and wear mixed fabrics, yet they do every single day without any harm to their faith. Muslims don't fear any of those things.
    There is nothing demonstrably true that religion can provide the world that cannot be achieved more rationally through entirely secular means.

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    Re: On ‘Face the Nation,’ Senators Feinstein, McCain Call For More U.S. Troops In M.E

    Quote Originally Posted by Cephus View Post
    I have debated a lot of Muslims and I have yet to ever hear a single one of them say that if they were sprayed with bacon grease or set on fire or killed by a woman, their "salvation" would be one tiny bit damaged. The same thing can be said for Christians, their religious book says they can't eat shellfish and wear mixed fabrics, yet they do every single day without any harm to their faith. Muslims don't fear any of those things.
    A Muslim man cannot reach Jannah/heaven if killed by a woman. He will reside in hell.

    This is what they believe. ISIS/AQ and all those being called radical/militant/Islamists. That which they believe.....can be used against them.

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    Re: On ‘Face the Nation,’ Senators Feinstein, McCain Call For More U.S. Troops In M.E

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    A Muslim man cannot reach Jannah/heaven if killed by a woman. He will reside in hell.

    This is what they believe. ISIS/AQ and all those being called radical/militant/Islamists. That which they believe.....can be used against them.
    Why not use the cultural and ethnic differences within ISIS to make the group fall apart?

    What are ISIS but squabbling warlords?
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    Re: On ‘Face the Nation,’ Senators Feinstein, McCain Call For More U.S. Troops In M.E

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    A Muslim man cannot reach Jannah/heaven if killed by a woman. He will reside in hell.

    This is what they believe. ISIS/AQ and all those being called radical/militant/Islamists. That which they believe.....can be used against them.
    Unless they completely rewrite that belief, which they most certainly will. You keep demanding that they all believe something when it's certainly untrue. Just because it's in the Qur'an doesn't mean they'll always buy into it, they will rationalize away any problems that they come across. That's how religion works, whether you like it or not.
    There is nothing demonstrably true that religion can provide the world that cannot be achieved more rationally through entirely secular means.

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    Re: On ‘Face the Nation,’ Senators Feinstein, McCain Call For More U.S. Troops In M.E

    Quote Originally Posted by Unitedwestand13 View Post
    Why not use the cultural and ethnic differences within ISIS to make the group fall apart?

    What are ISIS but squabbling warlords?
    Well, we were trying to do that with the MS media talking about how ISIS and AQ were fighting with one another and killing each other. Talking about power struggles, competing with each other.

    Until they started working together and showing openly they were doing so, that is.

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    Re: On ‘Face the Nation,’ Senators Feinstein, McCain Call For More U.S. Troops In M.E

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    Well, we were trying to do that with the MS media talking about how ISIS and AQ were fighting with one another and killing each other. Talking about power struggles, competing with each other.

    Until they started working together and showing openly they were doing so, that is.
    ISIS can only maintain its existence through force of arms, because religion is the only thing the people of ISIS have in common.
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    Re: On ‘Face the Nation,’ Senators Feinstein, McCain Call For More U.S. Troops In M.E

    Quote Originally Posted by Cephus View Post
    Unless they completely rewrite that belief, which they most certainly will. You keep demanding that they all believe something when it's certainly untrue. Just because it's in the Qur'an doesn't mean they'll always buy into it, they will rationalize away any problems that they come across. That's how religion works, whether you like it or not.

    Well it was working with the Kurds. As ISIS fighters were quite concerned about it. Twittering about it too.

    Then some of our people started twittering pics of US female pilots......back over Twitter. To help them see some more of the reality that has been taking place.

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    Re: On ‘Face the Nation,’ Senators Feinstein, McCain Call For More U.S. Troops In M.E

    Quote Originally Posted by Unitedwestand13 View Post
    ISIS can only maintain its existence through force of arms, because religion is the only thing the people of ISIS have in common.
    Yeah, we see how they used force of arms to get a Libyan city to pledge itself to them. Or when we see Pakistani and Afghani Taliban pledging to them. Or those in Algeria Pledge to them.

    Then there is AQ and Ansar al Sharia.

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    Re: On ‘Face the Nation,’ Senators Feinstein, McCain Call For More U.S. Troops In M.E

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    Well it was working with the Kurds. As ISIS fighters were quite concerned about it. Twittering about it too.

    Then some of our people started twittering pics of US female pilots......back over Twitter. To help them see some more of the reality that has been taking place.
    I don't buy for a second that it would work in practice, that you'd have large numbers of ISIS fighters dropping their weapons in fear of being killed by a female pilot. Some Imam would just issue a new statement of faith and they'd be back to killing again.
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    Re: On ‘Face the Nation,’ Senators Feinstein, McCain Call For More U.S. Troops In M.E

    Quote Originally Posted by Cephus View Post
    I don't buy for a second that it would work in practice, that you'd have large numbers of ISIS fighters dropping their weapons in fear of being killed by a female pilot. Some Imam would just issue a new statement of faith and they'd be back to killing again.
    No one said they would drop their weapons.....just like they didn't fighting the Kurdish women. But fighting on the ground it did cause them to actually be concerned about it. Naturally when they captured one. They took out their frustrations.

    Not much they can do about what they didn't know.....with US female pilots.

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