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    Re: On ‘Face the Nation,’ Senators Feinstein, McCain Call For More U.S. Troops In M.E

    Quote Originally Posted by Jetboogieman View Post
    So you have no answers to my questions?

    Hardly surprising... shouldn't you still be freaking out over Ebola or something?
    Ebola, then black people shooting cops, and now it's back to Isis.

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    Re: On ‘Face the Nation,’ Senators Feinstein, McCain Call For More U.S. Troops In M.E

    Quote Originally Posted by Fletch View Post
    That is a different argument. There is a difference between ISIS wanting a ground war against us and us wanting a ground war against them. I am addressing the former and you are addressing the latter. I know why we don't want it. What I am asking is why do they want to tangle with a force that would wipe them out.
    We haven't wiped out Al Qaeda in 10 plus years, what makes you think we can wipe out ISIS?

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    Re: On ‘Face the Nation,’ Senators Feinstein, McCain Call For More U.S. Troops In M.E

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    Well whaddya know.....Diane Feinstein with McCain are out publicly challenging BO and his mental issues of his ideology. This is indeed a good day to Start a Monday. Another Democrat telling BO how he has got it wrong. What say ye?




    Two influential senators are calling on President Barack Obama to send more U.S. ground troops to hotspots around the Middle East.

    The suggestion by Republican John McCain and Democrat Dianne Feinstein is a direct challenge to the president, who has said he doesn’t want to increase the U.S. military presence in Yemen despite the deteriorating security condition in that country.

    Feinstein, the top Democrat on the Senate Intelligence Committee, says the U.S. needs more human intelligence in the region and to not rely so heavily on intelligence gathered by technical means.....snip~

    On ‘Face the Nation,’ Senators Feinstein, McCain Call For More U.S. Troops In Middle East « CBS San Francisco
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    Re: On ‘Face the Nation,’ Senators Feinstein, McCain Call For More U.S. Troops In M.E

    Quote Originally Posted by CanadaJohn View Post
    I can't agree with your position at all. The Iraqis - the Kurds in particular - have asked for our assistance and you want to just go in and kill all of them, our friends as well. That's about as stupid as burning down your house to get rid of some cockroaches.
    You are misstating my position. I doubt very much that all but a few of the inhabitants of Mosul, Raqqa, Tikrit, Ramadi, and other cities these war criminals are sheltering in--or even a majority of them--are "our friends." A few thousand jihadists could not possibly hold sway over a population hundreds of times their number unless much of that population acquiesced in or even actively supported what they are up to. Despite that, I never even implied that the U.S. "just go in and kill all of them." Nor did I ever imply the U.S. should kill even a single Kurd. It would be both wrong and stupid to do that, because the Kurds are our best potential ally in the region. Any of them who did live in Mosul certainly are not living there any more.

    I suggested that it is foolish to be overly fastidious about killing civilians to get at these jihadists--not only in Iraq and Syria, but in other countries also. The very reason they are sheltering in cities is that they are sure the U.S. is so soft and decadent it lacks the will to cause heavy civilian casualties to get at them, no matter how horrific the atrocities they continue to commit. They are convinced Americans are so fastidious we simply can't bear causing civilian casualties, and they are using that weakness against us.

    Under the laws of war, if civilians are killed in the course of attacking armed enemies who have taken cover among them, those enemies--and not the people attacking them--are unlawful combatants and responsible for killing those civilians. Fighting from amongst civilians, using them as human shields, is a war crime, just like fighting out of hospitals, schools, churches, or residences. The laws of war do not require the U.S. to let war criminals have a safe haven from which to plot the murders of more Americans, just because attacking them is likely to cause civilian deaths.

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    Re: On ‘Face the Nation,’ Senators Feinstein, McCain Call For More U.S. Troops In M.E

    Quote Originally Posted by iguanaman View Post
    The question is why would we use conventional weapons to do the same thing that a nuclear blast would do quicker and cheaper? Victory on your terms would mean near total annihilation of the native population of Iraq and Syria and Iran and Yemen and Libya and on and on .............. You also forget we dropped more bomb tonnage on Vietnam that all of Germany in WWII and still lost.
    No, the question is why you are so willing to let the ISIS jihadists do whatever they please. What you clearly hope, although you will not acknowledge it, is that the U.S. will not use any effective force against them. To let these people continue to be as free to act as they now are is to openly invite a major attack on this country. They are just as determined to kill Americans as the jihadists behind 9/11 were, they have just as safe a base of operations, and they have even more resources.

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    Re: On ‘Face the Nation,’ Senators Feinstein, McCain Call For More U.S. Troops In M.E

    Quote Originally Posted by AmericanSpartan View Post
    We have our own oil, our allies security is not out problem, if they want protection fine, in order to play they will pay, if not we leave.
    We are also fighting the war on terror, even if we dont want to and even if we think its over. This is a long-haul war, there wont be a VE-day, and the longer we pretend we aren't fighting it-the worse it will be for us.

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    Re: On ‘Face the Nation,’ Senators Feinstein, McCain Call For More U.S. Troops In M.E

    Quote Originally Posted by SheWolf View Post
    Americans don't like Isis, but committing our resources to a full fledged war against ISIS requires a better argument than "we hate those deranged assholes." We have to weigh the costs of war. We need a clear goal, and I want to know how it will benefit me and the United States?

    We don't need an endless war, and especially not an endless war against ISIS.


    Again who said it was just an American problem......oh and not all former Military just make decisions solely by Hate. Seems like that would be an emotion played off of by those who lean left and are usually from the brand, civilian sheep.

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    Re: On ‘Face the Nation,’ Senators Feinstein, McCain Call For More U.S. Troops In M.E

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    Again who said it was just an American problem......oh and not all former Military just make decisions solely by Hate. Seems like that would be an emotion played off of by those who lean left and are usually from the brand, civilian sheep.
    Why else should we fight ISIS on the ground, if not because we don't like them? They don't have the ability to reach us on ground over here. They are largely hurting people on the other side of the world. Why should that be our fight?

    I could understand assisting Arab nations in fight ISIS, but I don't understand why we should make a huge commitment and send ground troops over...

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    Re: On ‘Face the Nation,’ Senators Feinstein, McCain Call For More U.S. Troops In M.E

    Quote Originally Posted by SheWolf View Post
    Why else should we fight ISIS on the ground, if not because we don't like them? They don't have the ability to reach us on ground over here. They are largely hurting people on the other side of the world. Why should that be our fight?

    I could understand assisting Arab nations in fight ISIS, but I don't understand why we should make a huge commitment and send ground troops over...
    What part about them did you forget.....with them declaring War on Americans and Others? What do you mean they don't have the ability to reach us over here. They have access to US Visas. They are moving West.

    The Arab Nations are to incompetent to deal with the problem. Which is why they have to rely on others to solve the problem.

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    Re: On ‘Face the Nation,’ Senators Feinstein, McCain Call For More U.S. Troops In M.E

    Quote Originally Posted by SheWolf View Post
    Why else should we fight ISIS on the ground, if not because we don't like them? They don't have the ability to reach us on ground over here. They are largely hurting people on the other side of the world. Why should that be our fight?

    I could understand assisting Arab nations in fight ISIS, but I don't understand why we should make a huge commitment and send ground troops over...


    I suppose Al Qaeda didn't have the ability to reach us here on U.S. soil, either, since they were operating out of Afghanistan, clear on the other side of the world. The U.S. only murdered millions of them because we didn't like them--not because of 9/11. When will this horrible, evil country stop hating on poor Muslims, just because they're brown and not Xtian???

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