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    Re: Cuba leaves talks on US ties insisting it won't make major changes to its system

    Quote Originally Posted by Dragonfly View Post
    What wouldn't be fun? Tropical. Caribbean. Beaches. Ocean. Palm trees. Sounds rather inviting.
    That's the brochure. Here's what awaits you.


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    Re: Cuba leaves talks on US ties insisting it won't make major changes to its system

    Quote Originally Posted by Dragonfly View Post
    What wouldn't be fun? Tropical. Caribbean. Beaches. Ocean. Palm trees. Sounds rather inviting.
    You must think Cuba is what you see in postcards.

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    Re: Cuba leaves talks on US ties insisting it won't make major changes to its system

    Please....

    The USofA looks great too doesn't it?

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    I have felt pain when I was in the womb. So when you say they are incapable of feeling pain, that is based on junk science.

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    Re: Cuba leaves talks on US ties insisting it won't make major changes to its system

    Quote Originally Posted by Samhain View Post
    That's the brochure. Here's what awaits you.

    As someone who has been to Cuba in the last ...oh... year, this doesn't await any tourist. As with tourists who visit the US (or for that matter any country), tourists who visit Cuba are kept away from the realities of the country's poor. I mean, I've been to Playa del Carmen (in Mexico) and stayed at this hotel (The Reina Roja):



    50% of the state looks like this:

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    Re: Cuba leaves talks on US ties insisting it won't make major changes to its system

    Quote Originally Posted by Dragonfly View Post
    Please....

    The USofA looks great too doesn't it?

    Some of the liberal run areas, yes.

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    Re: Cuba leaves talks on US ties insisting it won't make major changes to its system

    Quote Originally Posted by US Conservative View Post
    Some of the liberal run areas, yes.
    You lose on so many levels in so many ways it's just not funny.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bucky View Post
    I have felt pain when I was in the womb. So when you say they are incapable of feeling pain, that is based on junk science.

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    Re: Cuba leaves talks on US ties insisting it won't make major changes to its system

    Quote Originally Posted by US Conservative View Post
    Some of the liberal run areas, yes.
    Have you ever been to KY?

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    Re: Cuba leaves talks on US ties insisting it won't make major changes to its system

    Cuba is beginning to dismantle its socialist system but it won't happen overnight. Cuban bureaucrats face the same problems Russian bureaucrats did when they dismantled the USSR, how to create a new Cuban bourgeoisie. It will be a long, patient degradation as private investment is allowed in and government assets are privatized, but it's pretty inevitable given how they have been running the country.
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    Re: Cuba leaves talks on US ties insisting it won't make major changes to its system

    Quote Originally Posted by Lursa View Post
    It's their business what freedoms they give their citizens. Not up to us. We dont dictate to China or Saudi Arabia, for ex, how to treat their citizens. We huff and puff but do little of substance. Our attempts at changes to human rights have taken years and have made no inroads in SA.

    that doesnt mean I like the system in Cuba, just that it's hypocritical to consider it our business, both in general and there specifically.
    Well I think we made it our business by reopening relation with them. China is a major world manufacturer, Saudi Arabia is the largest producer of oil in the world. Cuba produces what exactly that we want? So we in the embargo by trading three people including one of their citizens convicted of murder, in exchange for reopening relations, which we don't benefit from at all.

    This was a stupid deal all around. Not only that but the Cubans of been committing acts of war against us for the past 20 years and have gotten away with it. Why I will never be president, if I won in 2016 I'd undo this mess by sitting little Raul down and telling him the rough riders are coming back up San Juan hill if he doesn't play ball...
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    Re: Cuba leaves talks on US ties insisting it won't make major changes to its system

    Quote Originally Posted by EMNofSeattle View Post
    Well I think we made it our business by reopening relation with them. China is a major world manufacturer, Saudi Arabia is the largest producer of oil in the world. Cuba produces what exactly that we want? So we in the embargo by trading three people including one of their citizens convicted of murder, in exchange for reopening relations, which we don't benefit from at all.

    This was a stupid deal all around. Not only that but the Cubans of been committing acts of war against us for the past 20 years and have gotten away with it. Why I will never be president, if I won in 2016 I'd undo this mess by sitting little Raul down and telling him the rough riders are coming back up San Juan hill if he doesn't play ball...
    What the hell are you so scared of?

    Cuba is roughly the size of what....Pennsylvania?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bucky View Post
    I have felt pain when I was in the womb. So when you say they are incapable of feeling pain, that is based on junk science.

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