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    Re: Cuba leaves talks on US ties insisting it won't make major changes to its system

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    Re: Cuba leaves talks on US ties insisting it won't make major changes to its system

    Quote Originally Posted by US Conservative View Post
    So lifting the embargo, to give Cuba what they want while getting nothing in return makes us "look" less weak to Cuba?
    Is this your premise?
    You think an embargo which no one is willing to participate in but us and which has been easily bypassed by Cuba from day one makes us look strong?

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    Re: Cuba leaves talks on US ties insisting it won't make major changes to its system

    Quote Originally Posted by US Conservative View Post
    Nobody is helping them-thats how it works under marxist dictatorships. Trade is only going to the ruling class-and they have already said they aren't making any changes.
    Communism isn't helping them and the embargo hasn't made so much as a dent in it. A different strategy may be in order.


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    Re: Cuba leaves talks on US ties insisting it won't make major changes to its system

    Quote Originally Posted by Napoleon View Post
    You think an embargo which no one is willing to participate in but us and which has been easily bypassed by Cuba from day one makes us look strong?
    I noticed you didn't answer the question. In any case, this makes us look worse. The left isn't about victory or accomplishment-its about feeling better about failure.

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    Re: Cuba leaves talks on US ties insisting it won't make major changes to its system

    Quote Originally Posted by rocket88 View Post
    Communism isn't helping them and the embargo hasn't made so much as a dent in it. A different strategy may be in order.
    Thats like a firefighter not being able to put out a fire with water, and then switching to gasoline to try a different strategy.

    This is an idiotic statement-a different strategy that is even worse isn't the answer.

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    Re: Cuba leaves talks on US ties insisting it won't make major changes to its system

    Quote Originally Posted by US Conservative View Post
    I noticed you didn't answer the question. In any case, this makes us look worse. The left isn't about victory or accomplishment-its about feeling better about failure.
    What "victory" or "accomplishment" have sanctions and the embargo yielded other than making us look petty and foolish and driving Cuba to snuggle up to China and Venezuela? If you have no reasonable alternative to diplomacy to offer then sit down, shut up, and let the scenario play out. Being a crybaby over some minor diplomatic relations isn't going to bring down the Castro regime either.
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    Re: Cuba leaves talks on US ties insisting it won't make major changes to its system

    Quote Originally Posted by Napoleon View Post
    What "victory" or "accomplishment" have sanctions and the embargo yielded other than making us look petty and foolish and driving Cuba to snuggle up to China and Venezuela? If you have no reasonable alternative to diplomacy to offer then sit down, shut up, and let the scenario play out. Being a crybaby over some minor diplomatic relations isn't going to bring down the Castro regime either.
    What victory or accomplishment has Obama change in policy yielded? Why dont you extend this logic to the war on poverty.

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    Re: Cuba leaves talks on US ties insisting it won't make major changes to its system

    Quote Originally Posted by US Conservative View Post
    What victory or accomplishment has Obama change in policy yielded?
    Diplomacy rarely achieves 100% of the results either side wants and never achieves them overnight.

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    Why dont you extend this logic to the war on poverty.
    Because this thread is about Cuba. Start another if you want to talk about the war on poverty.

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    Re: Cuba leaves talks on US ties insisting it won't make major changes to its system

    Quote Originally Posted by Napoleon View Post
    Diplomacy rarely achieves 100% of the results either side wants and never achieves them overnight.



    Because this thread is about Cuba. Start another if you want to talk about the war on poverty.
    In other words nothing.

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