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Thread: Cuba leaves talks on US ties insisting it won't make major changes to its system

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    Re: Cuba leaves talks on US ties insisting it won't make major changes to its system

    Quote Originally Posted by Lursa View Post
    Didnt see a single, 'debunk.' LOL

    People can write stuff, doesnt mean it's true.

    And having a more open, prosperous country off our borders is certainly a greater advantage than the current situation.

    We have failed for 50 yrs, now we can look magnanimous and make some moves that enable Cuba to open up economically and in terms of human rights. We arent forcing regime change, but making efforts that will enable it.
    Cuba is was a corrupt crap hole before chump obama eased up on them, and it will be after-its run by dictators. You could pump money into that nation and it would not help the average cuban a bit-and thats what you are supporting-helping the govt, not the people.

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    Re: Cuba leaves talks on US ties insisting it won't make major changes to its system

    Quote Originally Posted by tech30528 View Post
    Cigars and really good sandwiches.
    The biggest thing about Cuban cigars is that all of the tobacco is grown in the same place, but others have caught up. And I can get plenty of awesome cuban around here, from Cubans who love the US.

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    Re: Cuba leaves talks on US ties insisting it won't make major changes to its system

    Quote Originally Posted by DaveFagan View Post
    I think that the USA should start by deciding how much in USA Dollars we
    owe Cuba as a result of the 50 year embargo and sabotage. We definitely
    owe reparations to that Nation. Maybe they'll be kind enough to lend us a
    few Doctors or allow US students to attend Med School in Cuba.
    Lolz that was funny.

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    Re: Cuba leaves talks on US ties insisting it won't make major changes to its system

    Quote Originally Posted by sawdust View Post
    That's what happens when you don't understand the use of smart power in international relations. Obama opened up by bending over and letting Castro have fun with his ass and now Obama is trying to reclaim his virginity. That's not the way international relations works.
    Obama has been walking with a limp for some time now-and he appears to like it. Any 2-bit dictator can see this guy coming.

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    Re: Cuba leaves talks on US ties insisting it won't make major changes to its system

    Quote Originally Posted by Lursa View Post
    It's their business what freedoms they give their citizens. Not up to us. We dont dictate to China or Saudi Arabia, for ex, how to treat their citizens. We huff and puff but do little of substance. Our attempts at changes to human rights have taken years and have made no inroads in SA.

    that doesnt mean I like the system in Cuba, just that it's hypocritical to consider it our business, both in general and there specifically.
    If they want good relations with the US, it very much is our business. They are asking for all kinds of concessions while offering nothing but a prisoner swap in return. Freedom is a universal right. It is not the Castros to give or take away. They are authoritarian dictator thugs.

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    Re: Cuba leaves talks on US ties insisting it won't make major changes to its system

    Quote Originally Posted by rocket88 View Post
    Your cartoon makes an interesting point, however I fail to see how continuing along the same path helps the average Cuban either. It would seem that they'd be better off getting American money. Opening opens up markets too, meaning more money flowing into Cuba and potentially to the average Cuban. The embargo sure hasn't made them free, has it?
    The average cuban will see none of that money-just like they have not until now from whatever income the nation gets.

    The difference is now the corrupt leadership has more money. Thats what Obama is doing.

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    Re: Cuba leaves talks on US ties insisting it won't make major changes to its system

    Quote Originally Posted by Roadvirus View Post
    What do we get? Exactly like the so-called Iranian deal: Nothing
    President Moron is a terrible negotiator. Just add it to the list of things he sucks at.
    Its been amateur hour for the last 6 years.

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    Re: Cuba leaves talks on US ties insisting it won't make major changes to its system

    Quote Originally Posted by US Conservative View Post
    Obama has been walking with a limp for some time now-and he appears to like it. Any 2-bit dictator can see this guy coming.
    Like Gaddafi?


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    Re: Cuba leaves talks on US ties insisting it won't make major changes to its system

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    Like Gaddafi?
    Or Putin? If you ask some people, they're doing fine with a destroyed economy, political isolation and Putin owns Obama.
    I refuse to accept the view that mankind is so tragically bound to the starless midnight of racism and war that the bright daybreak of peace and brotherhood can never become a reality. - MLK

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    Re: Cuba leaves talks on US ties insisting it won't make major changes to its system

    Quote Originally Posted by US Conservative View Post
    The biggest thing about Cuban cigars is that all of the tobacco is grown in the same place, but others have caught up. And I can get plenty of awesome cuban around here, from Cubans who love the US.
    The thing is all the Cuban families who owned the plantations fled to the Dominican Republic with their best workers. So really the Dominican cigars are what the Cubans were. I may have had a cigar from a certain country you mentioned in a nonspecific country to our north.

    It was ok but not stellar
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