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    Re: Group says 'American Sniper' film spurs threats against Muslims

    Quote Originally Posted by RabidAlpaca View Post
    Which battlefields were you at? I was in Afghanistan, does that mean my opinion is much more qualified than Lizzie's? I read the book and watched the movie, and while Chris Kyle was religious, it in no way seemed to be the driving motivation behind his actions. His actions seemed to be driven by being a red blooded alpha male whose job it was to enact violence on our behalf, and that he did very well.

    I think both wars were a tremendous mistake, but making **** up just to smear soldiers is kind of lame, isn't it? This isn't a Christian jihad.
    I agree...I think one issue with heroes now-a-days is that we learn much more than ever about their lives and their opinions. Nobody is perfect, nobody is going to exude 100% purity, Chris Kyle was a war hero. That's it. His outside life and what he believed as a civilian shouldn't really damage his legacy of what he did overseas.
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    Re: Group says 'American Sniper' film spurs threats against Muslims

    Quote Originally Posted by iliveonramen View Post
    I agree...I think one issue with heroes now-a-days is that we learn much more than ever about their lives and their opinions. Nobody is perfect, nobody is going to exude 100% purity, Chris Kyle was a war hero. That's it. His outside life and what he believed as a civilian shouldn't really damage his legacy of what he did overseas.
    I agree with you on that as well. It's been easy to deify people throughout history because we only see the bullet points of their lives and not the messy intimate details. People don't seem to realize that the things they're criticizing Kyle for are pretty standard personality types for red blooded, alpha male, combat arms types. Everyone in combat arms has at least a little bit wrong with them psychologically, otherwise we never would've signed up to do something so insanely ****ing dangerous in the first place.
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    Re: Group says 'American Sniper' film spurs threats against Muslims

    Quote Originally Posted by RabidAlpaca View Post
    Which battlefields were you at? I was in Afghanistan, does that mean my opinion is much more qualified than Lizzie's? I read the book and watched the movie, and while Chris Kyle was religious, it in no way seemed to be the driving motivation behind his actions. His actions seemed to be driven by being a red blooded alpha male whose job it was to enact violence on our behalf, and that he did very well.

    I think both wars were a tremendous mistake, but making **** up just to smear soldiers is kind of lame, isn't it? This isn't a Christian jihad.
    I never made it to the middle east, and unlike Lizzie, I have not claimed to have heard statements from soldiers on the battlefield there.

    This isn't a Christian jihad? It seems that depends upon who is telling the story. You may not recall but Boykin and Bush made several statements (they were each quickly corrected) about 'crusades'.

    Who is smearing soldiers? I am not. My nephew has been over there. I'm thrilled he does not seem to have PTSD.

    I've been standing up for our soldiers since this hoax began--get our boys the **** out of there and back home, since Bush began all this.

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    Re: Group says 'American Sniper' film spurs threats against Muslims

    Quote Originally Posted by fmw View Post
    Perhaps those arab americans need to start doing something within their religion to curtail the terrorism. We aren't mad at them. We are mad at what they are a part of. Perhaps they should lift a finger.
    Have you lifted a finger?

    They are doing the same thing you are doing.

    Last I checked they were Americans too....... if you forgot, check the name of their organization in th OP again.

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    Re: Group says 'American Sniper' film spurs threats against Muslims

    Quote Originally Posted by tech30528 View Post
    Yup. Hopefully someone will remind them that in this country they have the right to voice their opposition because of people like Kyle, and that the makers of the movie have the right to ignore it. They are in the business of making movies, not promoting the agenda of any group. Reality is not always sensitive to the needs of the easily offended.
    Pet peeve time..

    As a veteran of Iraq myself... its a huge pet peeve of mine to credit those of us veterans of these recent wars as if Americans have rights because of what we did.....

    As if we would NOT have rights had these wars not happened.


    We would...

    These wars, or lack thereof if we did not engage in them, would not have made a dent in the freedoms Americans enjoy.

    Lets be realistic please.

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    Re: Group says 'American Sniper' film spurs threats against Muslims

    Quote Originally Posted by Caine View Post
    Have you lifted a finger?

    They are doing the same thing you are doing.

    Last I checked they were Americans too....... if you forgot, check the name of their organization in th OP again.
    Yeah, they're American's....

    The Anti-Defamation League criticizes the grassroots leadership of some regional chapters who promote a hard-line stance, and alleges that some ADC chapters have rejected the State of Israel. The ADL alleges that some ADC chapter leaders voice "anti-Semitism", promote genocide, and advocate destruction of the State of Israel. These chapters have organized what ADL called “anti-Israel” rallies and, in California, worked with the Free Palestine Alliance, A.N.S.W.E.R. and Al-Awda (Palestinian right of return) activist groups which the Anti-Defamation League alleges support terrorism.[82] David Bernstein and Gerald M. Steinberg have documented that ADC is "anti-Israel."

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    Re: Group says 'American Sniper' film spurs threats against Muslims

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Yeah, they're American's....
    Yes. They are.

    And... what does Israel have to do with them being Americans?

    What does it have to do with the fact that they are expected to do more than other Americans about terrorists for some unknown reason?

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    Re: Group says 'American Sniper' film spurs threats against Muslims

    Quote Originally Posted by Caine View Post
    Yes. They are.

    And... what does Israel have to do with them being Americans?

    What does it have to do with the fact that they are expected to do more than other Americans about terrorists for some unknown reason?
    Do more? I don't think I said that, but think about it...Before we were involved in Germany in WWII there were a fair number of people here in the US that sympathized with the Nazi's too...Look how that turned out...
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    Re: Group says 'American Sniper' film spurs threats against Muslims

    Quote Originally Posted by Henry David View Post
    I wonder what would happen if some arab movie maker made a film about a mythical arab sniper taking out westerners one at a time, and portraying them as heathens in the process.

    Boy, that would go over like a lead balloon, eh?
    I'd probably find it funny.

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    Re: Group says 'American Sniper' film spurs threats against Muslims

    Quote Originally Posted by Gathomas88 View Post
    As a matter of fact, they already make those kinds of movies. They have been doing so for more than a decade at this point.

    This one, for example:

    Valley of the Wolves: Iraq - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    Apparently glorifies suicide bombers blowing up American troops in Iraq, and features Billy Zane as an EVVVVIIILLL mustache twirling American commander.
    Oh wow. The description sounds awesome. So gonna have to see if it's on Neflix or something.

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