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    Re: Will Japan go to war with ISIS

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    It took more than 400 troops to run the Iraqi army out of those areas.
    That's not what I read. I many cases, the Iraqi army never even fought, they just fled. One report was about a few hundred ISIS running off thousands of Iraqi troops.

    How did 800 ISIS fighters rout 2 Iraqi divisions? | Military Times | militarytimes.com

    As far as the total number of fighters they have, that's very debateable. It's not like a country where we have official numbers. And some people may seem to be ISIS fighters one day, and local farmers the next day.

    ISIS Has 9,000
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    Re: Will Japan go to war with ISIS

    Quote Originally Posted by imagep View Post
    That's not what I read. I many cases, the Iraqi army never even fought, they just fled. One report was about a few hundred ISIS running off thousands of Iraqi troops.

    How did 800 ISIS fighters rout 2 Iraqi divisions? | Military Times | militarytimes.com

    As far as the total number of fighters they have, that's very debateable. It's not like a country where we have official numbers. And some people may seem to be ISIS fighters one day, and local farmers the next day.

    ISIS Has 9,000
    Iraqi troops cut and ran when Amerika came to town too.

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    Re: Will Japan go to war with ISIS

    Quote Originally Posted by imagep View Post
    That's not what I read. I many cases, the Iraqi army never even fought, they just fled. One report was about a few hundred ISIS running off thousands of Iraqi troops.

    How did 800 ISIS fighters rout 2 Iraqi divisions? | Military Times | militarytimes.com

    As far as the total number of fighters they have, that's very debateable. It's not like a country where we have official numbers. And some people may seem to be ISIS fighters one day, and local farmers the next day.

    ISIS Has 9,000
    This is because ISIL is just members of the local population, as it is just people defending their own homeland against the violent invaders of the USA.

    We are not attacking a real Country as we are just murdering the local citizens.

    And the American propped up Iraqi Army had no reason to fight and kill their own people as the Americans wanted.
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    Re: Will Japan go to war with ISIS

    Quote Originally Posted by Jetboogieman View Post
    Japan has a sizable, competent and well equipped Defense Force partially due to perceived Chinese aggression.
    I don't blame them.

    They're justifiably scared about a Chinese teddy roosevelt with a "big stick" policy.
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    Re: Will Japan go to war with ISIS

    Quote Originally Posted by Fenton View Post
    What lies ?

    Are you referring to the old left wing talking points about Bush lying about WMDs ?

    Because that's been thoroughly debunked.
    The Bush admin lies about the WMD certainly was one of the lies - when there was no such thing.

    There was also the lie that Saddam Husein helped with the 9/11 attack - which he did not.

    That Iraq posed as a threat to the USA - another lie.

    The lie that the Geneva Convention does not protect the prisoners - so our torture of human beings was a barbaric lie.

    And there really are lots more, link = Study: Bush, aides made 935 false statements in run-up to war - CNN.com

    Quote Originally Posted by Fenton View Post
    As far as not paying ransom, that is a good policy.
    So much for any true concern about our spies getting their heads cut off.

    Why would we pay ransom when we can get some new fool to take their place. ~ Sarcasm.

    It might be different if you were the one being held for ransom, or if you had any human feelings for the one getting executed - but no.

    And it is noteworthy that their side ask for a ransom out of a long traditional respect during warfare, while our side will not ask for ransom as our side is completely unreasonable (unable to be reasoned with).
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    Re: Will Japan go to war with ISIS

    Quote Originally Posted by TerryOfromCA View Post
    That would be freekin' awesome. Bring back the Kamikazes, suicide planes blowing up suicide bombers.
    That was my first thought too, but I hope Japan knows they don't have to have the pilots inside the planes anymore.

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    Re: Will Japan go to war with ISIS

    Given past experience, if Japan does go to war, ISIL will be the last to know.

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    Re: Will Japan go to war with ISIS

    Quote Originally Posted by JP Cusick View Post
    The Bush admin lies about the WMD certainly was one of the lies - when there was no such thing.

    There was also the lie that Saddam Husein helped with the 9/11 attack - which he did not.

    That Iraq posed as a threat to the USA - another lie.

    The lie that the Geneva Convention does not protect the prisoners - so our torture of human beings was a barbaric lie.

    And there really are lots more, link = Study: Bush, aides made 935 false statements in run-up to war - CNN.com


    So much for any true concern about our spies getting their heads cut off.

    Why would we pay ransom when we can get some new fool to take their place. ~ Sarcasm.

    It might be different if you were the one being held for ransom, or if you had any human feelings for the one getting executed - but no.

    And it is noteworthy that their side ask for a ransom out of a long traditional respect during warfare, while our side will not ask for ransom as our side is completely unreasonable (unable to be reasoned with).
    I'm in the camp that Saddam violated the cease fire agreement which left him subject to renewed hostilities, but as for WMD:

    New York Times Reports WMD Found in Iraq - US News

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    Re: Will Japan go to war with ISIS

    Quote Originally Posted by AliHajiSheik View Post
    I'm in the camp that Saddam violated the cease fire agreement which left him subject to renewed hostilities, but as for WMD:

    New York Times Reports WMD Found in Iraq - US News
    The thing is that even if Iraq had any such weapons then it would not justify the invasion of Iraq, and the USA has a long vivid history of covering up our past lies with a new set of lies which is what that link describes, so the truth is trampled under no matter what anyone believes, because the Bush warmongers were going to war against Saddam Husein no matter what.

    As to Saddam violating the cease-fire then yes I know that Iraq did that but it was a sucker punch against the warmongers to draw them out.

    The so called cease fire was an idiotic arrangement created by the USA which allowed for continual harassment of Iraq and yes Saddam violated it and he did it as a tactic against our belligerence.

    Still Iraq shooting at our enemy aircraft over their territory was not a justification for the USA to invade Iraq.
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    Re: Will Japan go to war with ISIS

    Quote Originally Posted by JP Cusick View Post
    The thing is that even if Iraq had any such weapons then it would not justify the invasion of Iraq, and the USA has a long vivid history of covering up our past lies with a new set of lies which is what that link describes, so the truth is trampled under no matter what anyone believes, because the Bush warmongers were going to war against Saddam Husein no matter what.

    As to Saddam violating the cease-fire then yes I know that Iraq did that but it was a sucker punch against the warmongers to draw them out.

    The so called cease fire was an idiotic arrangement created by the USA which allowed for continual harassment of Iraq and yes Saddam violated it and he did it as a tactic against our belligerence.

    Still Iraq shooting at our enemy aircraft over their territory was not a justification for the USA to invade Iraq.
    That took us off the thread topic.

    The USA is still trying to play our sucker games in the Ukraine and against Russia while Russia really does have their own weapons of mass destruction which can kill every American in less than half an hour, so our side really needs to grow up and to grow up fast.
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