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    Re: Netanyahu ‘spat in our face,’ White House officials said to say[W:223]

    Quote Originally Posted by Objective Voice View Post
    ... But if that's truly the case, why has no President since Reagan - even when our problems with Iran's anti-American rhetoric and radicalism first began - has ever done anything militarily against them? The ONLY country that's ever gone to war with Iran since the 1980's has been Iraq. So, if we're giving credit to any country's leadership for exercising said "strength and force" as you exclaim well, GWB made sure Iraq's ruler would never demonstrate to the world how best to handle the Iran's Supreme Leader.

    Tell "W" I said thanks!

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    I don't think anything you wrote there actually addresses his claim that Iran isn't interested in negotiation or will respond only to strength and force. Those seem to be pretty obvious truths. Even many democrats believe Iran is just using these supposed talks as a means to stall, and strength and force doesn't have to mean military action but could also include very tight sanctions.

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    Re: Netanyahu ‘spat in our face,’ White House officials said to say[W:223]

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    President Obama told an Israeli television station on Thursday that his administration believed it would take Iran “over a year or so” to develop a nuclear weapon, and he vowed that the United States would do whatever was necessary to prevent that from happening. “Right now, we think it would take over a year or so for Iran to actually develop a nuclear weapon, but obviously we don’t want to cut it too close,” Mr. Obama told the Israeli station, Channel 2 TV. Mr. Obama’s estimated timeline contrasts with Mr. Netanyahu’s stated belief that Israel and its Western allies are likely to have to intervene by the spring or summer, when, he says, Iran’s scientists will have enriched enough uranium to become a nuclear threat. Iran denies that its nuclear program has any military aim.

    Mr. Obama has rarely been so specific about how long American intelligence agencies estimate it will take Iran to build a bomb. In defining the problem as he did — when Iran could get a weapon, rather than when it could have the capability to build one — he subtly indicated that he and Mr. Netanyahu still saw the problem in very different terms. Mr. Obama, in the interview, offered a different estimate: How long it would take Iran to build a full weapon. That would mean enriching enough uranium; fashioning it into a weapon, surrounded by detonators; and being able to be delivered by airplane, cargo ship or missile.

    In saying that day was over a year away, he was echoing what intelligence agencies have said to him about their estimates of Iran’s “breakout” capability how long it would take Iranian nuclear scientists to turn their stockpiles of fuel into a working weapon. Mr. Obama has never talked about stopping Iran from achieving weapons capability......snip~

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    Hows BO peep and his Team look?
    they look pretty good
    22 months later and no nuclear capacity
    however, if talks cease, be assured iran will develop a nuclear capability
    having a nuclear armed israel as a neighbor compels it
    we are negotiating about dividing a pizza and in the meantime israel is eating it
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    Re: Netanyahu ‘spat in our face,’ White House officials said to say[W:223]

    From Reuters:

    The U.S. Senate Banking Committee voted 18-4 on Thursday to advance a bill that would toughen sanctions on Iran if international negotiators fail to reach an agreement on Tehran's nuclear program by the end of June.

    However, the bill is not expected to come for a vote in the full Senate until at least March 24, after a group of senators, in the face of President Barack Obama's threat to veto the measure, reached an agreement to hold off for two months to allow time to reach a diplomatic solution.


    Senate panel advances Iran sanctions bill | Reuters

    IMO, this is reasonable legislation. It also allows for ample time to reach an agreement related to Iran's nuclear activities.

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    Re: Netanyahu ‘spat in our face,’ White House officials said to say[W:223]

    Quote Originally Posted by Fletch View Post
    I don't think anything you wrote there actually addresses his claim that Iran isn't interested in negotiation or will respond only to strength and force. Those seem to be pretty obvious truths. Even many democrats believe Iran is just using these supposed talks as a means to stall, and strength and force doesn't have to mean military action but could also include very tight sanctions.
    To be clear, Iran has only sought to be an instigator of anti-Americanism since the late 1970's/early 1980's. To add a little perspective, it was Iran who allowed AQ terrorist passage through their country using forged VISAs. So, I totally understand that they can't be trusted. All I'm saying is that no U.S. president since Reagan has done anything about the Iran problem and yet so many Conservatives complain about Pres. Obama's handling of the nuclear issue/sanctions as if other presidents have done more.

    Let's not be so hypercritical about things is all about saying. Give the President credit where due. Iran has seen some of, if not, the toughest economic sanctions of any sitting President since Carter. I see nothing wrong with some monetary concessions as long as Iran halts its nuclear weapons enrichment process. If not, put the sanctions back in place only make them more hurtful.
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    Re: Netanyahu ‘spat in our face,’ White House officials said to say[W:223]

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Congress appropriates funds, NOT the President....You should know that. But $3 billion is a drop in the bucket, it should be more.

    This is a example why I call Bullsh** on conservatives whining about debt.

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    Re: Netanyahu ‘spat in our face,’ White House officials said to say[W:223]

    Quote Originally Posted by rcart76 View Post
    This is a example why I call Bullsh** on conservatives whining about debt.
    Another Bonehead move backfiring on Boehner, as well as Netanyahu.
    Obama now up to 50%, Boehner being scoured by both sides, and Netanyahu getting beat up at home by his own press and losing election ground .
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    Re: Netanyahu ‘spat in our face,’ White House officials said to say[W:223]

    Quote Originally Posted by justabubba View Post
    they look pretty good
    22 months later and no nuclear capacity
    however, if talks cease, be assured iran will develop a nuclear capability
    having a nuclear armed israel as a neighbor compels it


    Say what.....try again. You must have missed the Part where The NY Times points out about all those who gave BO peep the assessment. Which says nothing of you thinking you had something with the Citation request.

    So wrong on the Nuclear Capability as they have been enriching this whole time.

    Oh, is that all you thought about. Israel.....no wonder you can't figure out that part about the Saud and what they said about if Iran gets the Nuke. Notice how they don't mention anything about Israel.

    But nice try on carrying BO peeps water for him. Looks like you will have to do a whole lot better. As denying reality didn't help you.

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    Re: Netanyahu ‘spat in our face,’ White House officials said to say[W:223]

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    This is a example why I call Bullsh** on conservatives whining about debt.
    Yeah right, that's it.
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    Re: Netanyahu ‘spat in our face,’ White House officials said to say[W:223]

    Quote Originally Posted by Fletch View Post
    I don't think anything you wrote there actually addresses his claim that Iran isn't interested in negotiation or will respond only to strength and force. Those seem to be pretty obvious truths. Even many democrats believe Iran is just using these supposed talks as a means to stall, and strength and force doesn't have to mean military action but could also include very tight sanctions.
    If the term "stalling" means buying time to get something accomplished, then I agree. Iran has spent too much time and money to just say "OK we'll stop if you lift the sanctions." Israel and Saudi Arabia don't believe them and they're closer to the problem...we're on the other side of the world.

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    Re: Netanyahu ‘spat in our face,’ White House officials said to say[W:223]

    Quote Originally Posted by leoborn View Post
    If the term "stalling" means buying time to get something accomplished, then I agree. Iran has spent too much time and money to just say "OK we'll stop if you lift the sanctions." Israel and Saudi Arabia don't believe them and they're closer to the problem...we're on the other side of the world.
    Look to the past history as to why they do not trust the US- Look to recent history as to why they do not trust the US - look to the hardliners on both side to ff things up = Look to the reason why the Iranians want the capability to build a bomb.
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