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    Re: Netanyahu ‘spat in our face,’ White House officials said to say[W:223]

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    Aw, poor, fragile administration hacks....They are all hurt that Bibi plans to talk to congress after being invited...Who the hell do they think they are, that Netanyahu has to "ask their permission? What a joke...I guess they should expect this after all the snubs that Obama regularly shows Israel...Like making Netanyahu wait while he went up and ate dinner....
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    Re: Netanyahu ‘spat in our face,’ White House officials said to say[W:223]

    Quote Originally Posted by Objective Voice View Post
    But they don't. And so your your irrational fear-mongering is irrelevant. That same fearful argument was used against Iraq when Saddam was in power (only he used Scud missiles, not nukes - because he didn't have any) and continues to be used for Iran (which still doesn't have nukes).

    I get that none of these nations with anti-Christian leaders/governments should have WMDs, but when people such as yourself insist on a single solution approach to resolve problems you leave no room for anything else. Not even Ronald Reagan was so blind as to think non-negotiations was a cure-all for every situation.
    I wasn't the one who brought nukes into the discussion, but since it was introduced, I thought that I'd at least use it to make a very valid point that many people so often tend to either overlook, when debationg this issue.

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    Re: Netanyahu ‘spat in our face,’ White House officials said to say[W:223]

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    We owe nothing to Israel. They owe us everything.
    Nope....Israel should be able to count on us as an ally, not watch over their shoulder for the bus coming at them....
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    Re: Netanyahu ‘spat in our face,’ White House officials said to say[W:223]

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    Nope....Israel should be able to count on us as an ally, not watch over their shoulder for the bus coming at them....
    Why do we owe Israel anything?
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    Re: Netanyahu ‘spat in our face,’ White House officials said to say[W:223]

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    Why do we owe Israel anything?
    I didn't say we did, but we are an ally...Shouldn't you be able to count on your allies?
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    Re: Netanyahu ‘spat in our face,’ White House officials said to say[W:223]

    Quote Originally Posted by Objective Voice
    But they don't. And so your your irrational fear-mongering is irrelevant. That same fearful argument was used against Iraq when Saddam was in power (only he used Scud missiles, not nukes - because he didn't have any) and continues to be used for Iran (which still doesn't have nukes).

    I get that none of these nations with anti-Christian leaders/governments should have WMDs, but when people such as yourself insist on a single solution approach to resolve problems you leave no room for anything else. Not even Ronald Reagan was so blind as to think non-negotiations was a cure-all for every situation.
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    however, that is exactly what supporters of this farce are doing...
    I disagree completely.

    We're using drone strikes in areas where military/special forces can't easily get into.

    We're using special forces to provide ground surveillance, coordinate air strikes and train foreign combatants how to "take the fight to a common enemy".

    We're using our political and economic influence (soft power) in an attempt to force rouge countries (Russia, North Korea, Iran) into compliance moreso with UN/NATO resolutions/treaties.

    Political persuasion to bring Arab nations to the table to "collective" resolve this regional problem called ISIS.

    While I would agree that the Obama Administrations foreign policy agenda where the Middle East is concerned does seem to be inconsistent if not incoherent to some, but when you don't have willing partners in the region who are willing to take matters into their own hands and fight for their own freedom AND your fellow countrymen are really tired of fighting AND your "all volunteer force" is tired of constantly being thrown into the meat grinder for wars/military campaigns that don't seem to have an end-game, do you think it wise to pursue a single-minded military option as the only solution to the Middle-East problem especially since no other U.S. President before Obama was able to fix the problem? Oh, wait! The problem wasn't exacerbated until The Bush Doctrine went into affect. My bad!

    My point here is simply this: STOP TAKING THE IDEOLOGICAL VIEW to all things. The ME in particular isn't a one size fits all situation. It's far more complicated that you might think.
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    Re: Netanyahu ‘spat in our face,’ White House officials said to say[W:223]

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    I didn't say we did, but we are an ally...Shouldn't you be able to count on your allies?
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    Re: Netanyahu ‘spat in our face,’ White House officials said to say[W:223]

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    I didn't say we did, but we are an ally...Shouldn't you be able to count on your allies?
    There is a difference between being able to count on them and being reliant.
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    Re: Netanyahu ‘spat in our face,’ White House officials said to say[W:223]

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    effectiveness of the sanctions imposed on Iran a number of years ago in bringing Iran to the negotiating table.


    The Jewish Press » » Despite Democrats’ Claims, Mossad Chief Favors Additional Iran Sanctions
    After he was told to say this by Netanyahu.
    And before he said these new sanctions would be like "throwing a grenade into the process".
    You keep leaving that part out MMC.

    As always, the GOP still thinks it owns foreign policy and should be doing the work of the President.
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    Re: Netanyahu ‘spat in our face,’ White House officials said to say[W:223]

    Quote Originally Posted by Objective Voice View Post
    I disagree completely.

    We're using drone strikes in areas where military/special forces can't easily get into.

    We're using special forces to provide ground surveillance, coordinate air strikes and train foreign combatants how to "take the fight to a common enemy".

    We're using our political and economic influence (soft power) in an attempt to force rouge countries (Russia, North Korea, Iran) into compliance moreso with UN/NATO resolutions/treaties.

    Political persuasion to bring Arab nations to the table to "collective" resolve this regional problem called ISIS.

    While I would agree that the Obama Administrations foreign policy agenda where the Middle East is concerned does seem to be inconsistent if not incoherent to some, but when you don't have willing partners in the region who are willing to take matters into their own hands and fight for their own freedom AND your fellow countrymen are really tired of fighting AND your "all volunteer force" is tired of constantly being thrown into the meat grinder for wars/military campaigns that don't seem to have an end-game, do you think it wise to pursue a single-minded military option as the only solution to the Middle-East problem especially since no other U.S. President before Obama was able to fix the problem? Oh, wait! The problem wasn't exacerbated until The Bush Doctrine went into affect. My bad!

    My point here is simply this: STOP TAKING THE IDEOLOGICAL VIEW to all things. The ME in particular isn't a one size fits all situation. It's far more complicated that you might think.
    You're taking the ideological view to all things.
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