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    re: Netanyahu ‘spat in our face,’ White House officials said to say[W:223]

    Quote Originally Posted by CanadaJohn View Post
    Thanks for this. I want to point out that an earlier poster said that Obama showed his support for Israel by giving them $3 billion in military aid - it's why I asked the question. But I find it interesting that on the first page of the document you provided, it notes that in 2007, President Bush signed a 10 year, $30 billion military aid package for Israel to run through 2018, entirely through and past the Obama two terms. In effect, Obama had nothing to do with it - unless he voted for it while he was in the Senate. It would be interesting to know if he actually voted in favour of this aid package.

    Well, if it lists the bill number, you can easily look that up.
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    re: Netanyahu ‘spat in our face,’ White House officials said to say[W:223]

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. Invisible View Post
    Well, if it lists the bill number, you can easily look that up.
    It doesn't say - perhaps it never went through Congress - I'm not sure if your President can, by executive order or otherwise, sign such agreements without a Congressional vote. It just notes in the footnotes:

    "United States-Israel Memorandum of Understanding, Signed by then U.S. Under Secretary of State R. Nicholas Burns and Israeli Ministry of Foreign Affairs Director General Aaron Abramovich, August 16, 2007."
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    re: Netanyahu ‘spat in our face,’ White House officials said to say[W:223]

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    Yes the post I linked to, links their report...


    This is a completely different document and topic than the first one you linked..


    Key words, "may be".


    Another giant "may be".



    Another giant "may be".


    Do you know whats funny. These are two different cited supposed reports. One is about Iran "may be" using domestic production to make parts needed for a reactor and nuclear materials.... The other is about Iran going on a "international shopping spree"....


    Amazing what? A bunch of unproven accusations? A bunch of "may be"? You also forget that Arak is under routine exceptions with the latest agreement.


    Yeah yeah.....Reuters, FP, UN, Diplomats.....their all wrong. Just you thinking you were Right.



    No may be here.....Continued to obtain items. Iran continues to make extensive use of front companies to procure items for prohibited activities. Some companies may be established solely for the purpose of prohibited procurement. In the report.


    Despite the apparent dip in procurement activity, Iran has continued to try to obtain items that could play an important role in its enrichment of uranium, the report said. "Iran has been attempting to procure high-grade carbon fiber for use in the manufacturing of some of its centrifuge rotors," the experts said, adding that Tehran has also sought to procure aluminum and other dual-use materials. "Iran continues to make extensive use of front companies to procure items for prohibited activities. Some companies may be established solely for the purpose of prohibited procurement. Others may also be engaged in legitimate business.
    Nope....no may be here either. Detailed annexes and even gave the example of how they did it.


    Sometimes Iran uses legitimate enterprises to acquire key technology. The report, which includes detailed annexes, cited an example of how Iran used its petrochemical industry as a facade to procure crucial items for its heavy-water nuclear reactor at Arak, a plant that has proven to be a big sticking point in Tehran's nuclear negotiations with the powers.....snip~

    Amazing, how you can't tell the difference between maybe and what was discovered. But don't worry, I wont tell anybody.

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    re: Netanyahu ‘spat in our face,’ White House officials said to say[W:223]

    Quote Originally Posted by whysoserious View Post
    Yes, because we know that "unnamed sources" tend to be super accurate most of the time.
    They sure are good enough for liberals when they support their arguments...It's the way DC gets its points out on both sides and you know that.
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    re: Netanyahu ‘spat in our face,’ White House officials said to say[W:223]

    Quote Originally Posted by NIMBY View Post
    Nothing's wrong with me Grim17. Just the GOP posters on here claiming Obama is anti-Semitic and wants Iran to exterminate Jews. Do you agree with this outrageous moronic nonsense Grim ?
    Anti-semetic? I don't know if I'd go that far, but he certainly hasn't shown much respect for our Israeli allies, and throughout his life he chose to associate and befriend some very influential people who were anything but friends to the Jewish people.

    An example that nobody has mentioned as of yet, was Obama's friend, pastor of more than 20 years and self proclaimed spiritual mentor Jeremiah Wright. Wright's monthly magazine "The Trumpeter", gave the "Dr. Jeremiah A. Wright Jr. Trumpeter Award" for 2007, to a man it said “truly epitomized greatness.” That man was America's leading anti-Semite, Louis Farrakhan. So there is ample evidence to suspect Obama may harbor anti-Jewish sentiments, but I wouldn't go so far as to flat out say he's anti-Semitic.

    As for the part about him wanting Iran to exterminate the Jews, that's just ridiculous. Who made such a claim anyway?



    Now that I have addressed your questions, and done so in a respectful and civil manner, do you think you could tell me what the Palestinians did immediately after Israel pulled out of Gaza in 2005?

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    re: Netanyahu ‘spat in our face,’ White House officials said to say[W:223]

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. Invisible View Post
    And your evidence of this is what exactly?
    Call it a gut feeling of mine.

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    re: Netanyahu ‘spat in our face,’ White House officials said to say[W:223]

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. Invisible View Post
    What evidence do you have of Iran being behind the coup in Yemen?
    Heya Mr.I. Arming and training the Houthi is good enough isn't it?


    What role is Iran playing?

    Saudi Arabia and other Sunni states have accused the Houthis of being a proxy for Iran, the region's Shiite superpower. The Houthis themselves deny this. Some outside sources have also suggested a link, however. Last year, Reuters spoke to officials from Saudi Arabia, Yemen and Iran who all claimed that Tehran had supplied money, weapons and training to the Houthis.....snip~

    Who are the Houthis, the group that just toppled Yemen’s government? - The Washington Post

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    re: Netanyahu ‘spat in our face,’ White House officials said to say[W:223]

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Congress appropriates funds, NOT the President....You should know that. But $3 billion is a drop in the bucket, it should be more.
    So, let's get this straight...

    GOP supporters get pissed when the U.S. government spends any amount of money on foreign aid, but it's perfectly okay to spend billions on Israel's national defense?

    I'm as Christian as the next guy and I'm very much away of Israel's past abilities to defend itself against terrorist extremism, but come on!! You guys really have to stop being two-faced about spending issues, national sovereignty and self-reliance.

    Quote Originally Posted by Sherman123 View Post
    It does seem highly inappropriate for a foreign leader to be bypassing the executive to address Congress. It smacks of political meddling that shouldn't be tolerated. That being said I'm not sure what recourse the President has. His administration is on the way out the door despite protestations to the contrary and it looks as though Mr. Netanyahu will win his re-election. Combine that with high latent support in the US and you aren't left with many moves that can be long lasting.
    First off, I certainly call foul on Spkr Boehner. Here he is insisting on transparency from the WH demanding that all WH visits be made public AND that the President should come to Congress on national security and foreign trade issues and the like, and here he goes behind the President's back inviting Bibi to speak before Congress - again.

    It's very clear this was yet another jab at the President while also attempting to give Bibi some political cover/gains ahead of Israel's elections, as well as generate more support from Jews right here at home for the GOP.

    All I have to say is pot meet kettle...and this time the pot ain't black.
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    re: Netanyahu ‘spat in our face,’ White House officials said to say[W:223]

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    They sure are good enough for liberals when they support their arguments...It's the way DC gets its points out on both sides and you know that.
    That sounds like a baseless accusation. Did you hear that liberals like unnamed sources from an unnamed source? LOL I think you meant to say hacks trust unnamed sources when it supports their position, and they don't trust unnamed sources when they don't support their position.

    It's possible this is all true... I'll wait to hear it from more media sources though.
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    re: Netanyahu ‘spat in our face,’ White House officials said to say[W:223]

    Quote Originally Posted by Objective Voice View Post
    So, let's get this straight...

    GOP supporters get pissed when the U.S. government spends any amount of money on foreign aid, but it's perfectly okay to spend billions on Israel's national defense?

    I'm as Christian as the next guy and I'm very much away of Israel's past abilities to defend itself against terrorist extremism, but come on!! You guys really have to stop being two-faced about spending issues, national sovereignty and self-reliance.
    You didn't know that? The GOP are as big of spenders than anyone else, they just want to spend it on **** they want to spend it on. Everyone else is mooching.
    Ted Cruz is the dumbest person alive.

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