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    re: Netanyahu ‘spat in our face,’ White House officials said to say[W:223]

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    Like I said in an earlier thread a while back, it seems this site is becoming a giant right wing circle jerk. Throw all rational thought, logic, and factual information out the window, just gotta hate on Obama.
    Not just Obama. It's fairly routine around here now for every thread to devolve into seething hate for the entire "left."
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    re: Netanyahu ‘spat in our face,’ White House officials said to say[W:223]

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    Like I said in an earlier thread a while back, it seems this site is becoming a giant right wing circle jerk. Throw all rational thought, logic, and factual information out the window, just gotta hate on Obama.
    I've noticed that too....
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    re: Netanyahu ‘spat in our face,’ White House officials said to say[W:223]

    Quote Originally Posted by donsutherland1 View Post
    A number of points:

    1. I do believe the Prime Minister should have notified the White House of his coming visit as a courtesy, not to request "permission" or "approval" for his trip. Diplomatic protocol is important.

    2. The Prime Minister was invited to address the Congress. He most definitely should do so.

    3. The AIPAC Conference had been scheduled well before new elections were scheduled in Israel. His attendance at the Conference should not be linked to the coming Israeli election. If he feels his presence would benefit Israel's interests, as the Prime Minister of Israel, he should attend.

    4. On the issue concerning Iran's nuclear activities, the U.S. and Israel hold similar, but not identical positions. Israel's margin of error is far smaller than it is for the U.S. If Iran were to develop a nuclear weapons capability, that development would have profound implications for Israel and it would represent an existential threat. The implications for the U.S. would be vastly smaller--a regional balance of power situation and security threat to strategic U.S. allies--as the U.S. would not face an existential threat.

    Two deadlines for agreement have now passed without the issue having been resolved. The differing levels of risk exposure lead Israel to support stronger sanctions more quickly, even as the White House seeks additional time. That each side holds a different position on sanctions reflects the risks they face; none of their positions is irrational or aimed at deliberately undermining the other party.

    5. The kind of comments and threats coming out of Washington are petty, incompatible with American interests, and reveal a willingness among some aides to put largely extraneous matters ahead of concrete interests and international relations.



    Heya DS. Do you recall BO a couple years ago going into 2013 stating when he gave a time-frame that Iran would reach getting their Nuke?

    Also.....besides the 2 deadlines coming and going. BO has given them another break, Right here in Dec.



    US reportedly accusing Iran of violating nuclear sanctions.....

    Washington has discreetly accused Iran of violating United Nations-imposed restrictions on purchasing materials for a nuclear facility, a US magazine reported Monday. Washington has evidence that Iran is attempting to purchase equipment needed for its heavy-water reactor at Arak, but has not publicly addressed the reported non-compliance, Foreign Policy reported, citing parts of a document compiled by US officials. Foreign Policy said it obtained portions of the confidential briefing, which does not name the US, that outlined the allegations of non-compliance. The paper stated that the US delegation detected an “increase in procurement on behalf of the IR-40 Heavy Water Research Reactor at Arak.”

    Diplomatic sources confirmed to Foreign Policy that the United States presented the briefing to the UN compliance committee. Although Tehran has recently authorized increasing numbers of International Atomic Energy Agency inspections, it has yet to comply with the UN agency’s long-standing requests for information outlining Iran’s military involvement in its nuclear program.

    Last week, outgoing Senate Foreign Relations Chairman Robert Menendez criticized the compromises made by the US and the other P5+1 countries and called for additional sanctions against Iran if a framework agreement is not reached by March 2015.....snip~

    Read more: US reportedly accusing Iran of violating nuclear sanctions | The Times of Israel US reportedly accusing Iran of violating nuclear sanctions | The Times of Israel
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    Moreover.....now with the Coup in Yemen wrapping up and knowing Iran was behind it. Should that be taken into consideration for these talks? Shouldn't Congress' legislation be ready to kick in if Iran doesn't comply? I think the Iranians need to be totally clear on that. The Stick that comes down. Automatically if they don't bring the agreement.

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    re: Netanyahu ‘spat in our face,’ White House officials said to say[W:223]

    Quote Originally Posted by Kobie View Post
    Not just Obama. It's fairly routine around here now for every thread to devolve into seething hate for the entire "left."
    By the left do you mean the people who:

    1) Are jealous and want to steal from the rich
    2) Are lazy
    3) Want to confiscate all guns
    4) Allowed and are the reason for terrorism in Europe and potentially in the US
    5) Godless heathens

    Those people?
    Ted Cruz is the dumbest person alive.

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    re: Netanyahu ‘spat in our face,’ White House officials said to say[W:223]

    Quote Originally Posted by Kobie View Post
    Not just Obama. It's fairly routine around here now for every thread to devolve into seething hate for the entire "left."
    Oh c'mon, there's just as much seething hate displayed for the entire "right". Same circle jerk, different target.

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    re: Netanyahu ‘spat in our face,’ White House officials said to say[W:223]

    Quote Originally Posted by Tettsuo View Post
    If they don't want a war, they should STFU. America and Iran are currently handling it through diplomacy. It's Israel that's behaving like a pack of wild dogs.
    Exclusive: Iran pursues ballistic missile work, complicating nuclear talks | Reuters

    Looks like you have the wild dogs misidentified.

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    re: Netanyahu ‘spat in our face,’ White House officials said to say[W:223]

    Quote Originally Posted by humbolt View Post
    No, I don't.

    When was the last time Iran actually attacked another country?

    America?

    Israel?

    Actions speak louder than words.
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    re: Netanyahu ‘spat in our face,’ White House officials said to say[W:223]

    Quote Originally Posted by Tettsuo View Post
    No, I don't.

    When was the last time Iran actually attacked another country?

    America?

    Israel?

    Actions speak louder than words.
    Yeah, you do. Iran has attacked us. Either you're very young or senile or something else I won't describe.

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    re: Netanyahu ‘spat in our face,’ White House officials said to say[W:223]

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    Like I said in an earlier thread a while back, it seems this site is becoming a giant right wing circle jerk. Throw all rational thought, logic, and factual information out the window, just gotta hate on Obama.
    I know nothing about "circle jerks," so I defer to whatever you say about them. I understand these must be difficult times for President Pinocchio's cheerleaders.

    Almost always when I have seen rational thought, logic, and factual information being thrown out the window, it was an anti-American collectivist doing the throwing. Some are such dim bulbs they have precious little to throw.

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    re: Netanyahu ‘spat in our face,’ White House officials said to say[W:223]

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    Heya DS. Do you recall BO a couple years ago going into 2013 stating when he gave a time-frame that Iran would reach getting their Nuke?

    Also.....besides the 2 deadlines coming and going. BO has given them another break, Right here in Dec.



    US reportedly accusing Iran of violating nuclear sanctions.....

    Washington has discreetly accused Iran of violating United Nations-imposed restrictions on purchasing materials for a nuclear facility, a US magazine reported Monday. Washington has evidence that Iran is attempting to purchase equipment needed for its heavy-water reactor at Arak, but has not publicly addressed the reported non-compliance, Foreign Policy reported, citing parts of a document compiled by US officials. Foreign Policy said it obtained portions of the confidential briefing, which does not name the US, that outlined the allegations of non-compliance. The paper stated that the US delegation detected an “increase in procurement on behalf of the IR-40 Heavy Water Research Reactor at Arak.”

    Diplomatic sources confirmed to Foreign Policy that the United States presented the briefing to the UN compliance committee. Although Tehran has recently authorized increasing numbers of International Atomic Energy Agency inspections, it has yet to comply with the UN agency’s long-standing requests for information outlining Iran’s military involvement in its nuclear program.

    Last week, outgoing Senate Foreign Relations Chairman Robert Menendez criticized the compromises made by the US and the other P5+1 countries and called for additional sanctions against Iran if a framework agreement is not reached by March 2015.....snip~

    Read more: US reportedly accusing Iran of violating nuclear sanctions | The Times of Israel US reportedly accusing Iran of violating nuclear sanctions | The Times of Israel
    Follow us: @timesofisrael on Twitter | timesofisrael on Facebook


    Moreover.....now with the Coup in Yemen wrapping up and knowing Iran was behind it. Should that be taken into consideration for these talks? Shouldn't Congress' legislation be ready to kick in if Iran doesn't comply? I think the Iranians need to be totally clear on that. The Stick that comes down. Automatically if they don't bring the agreement.
    Ahh the mystical UN Security Council report that apparently is publicly available, presented to the UNSC by the UN Panel of Experts, but no where can the report be found: http://www.debatepolitics.com/middle...post1064169445


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