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    Re: Talk of Wealth Gap Prods the G.O.P. to Refocus

    Quote Originally Posted by Declan View Post
    Because it is what it is. Yes.
    Hahahah ok chief.
    He touched her over her bra and underpants, she says, and guided her hand to touch him over his underwear
    Quote Originally Posted by Lutherf View Post
    We’ll say what? Something like “nothing happened” ... Yeah, we might say something like that.

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    Re: Talk of Wealth Gap Prods the G.O.P. to Refocus

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    Hahahah ok chief.
    Excellent, now go run off and cling to your guns and Bible.



    ^^See what I did there?

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    Re: Talk of Wealth Gap Prods the G.O.P. to Refocus

    Quote Originally Posted by Declan View Post
    Excellent, now go run off and cling to your guns and Bible.



    ^^See what I did there?
    Yes those are the sort of things Obama might say at a fundraising dinner.

    Bashing the poor is inconsistent with Democratic Party rhetoric.
    He touched her over her bra and underpants, she says, and guided her hand to touch him over his underwear
    Quote Originally Posted by Lutherf View Post
    We’ll say what? Something like “nothing happened” ... Yeah, we might say something like that.

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    Re: Talk of Wealth Gap Prods the G.O.P. to Refocus

    Quote Originally Posted by Declan View Post
    Doesn't make it any less a gotcha sleezy moment for the DNC.
    It was a damning statement. Furthermore, in politics you run on being "higher than sleaze" but you must engage in it. Being two-faced is the norm and is what the American people actually want. The American people want the veneer of positive campaigns to believe they are good people at heart, but actually deeply desire the vitriol of sleaze.
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    Re: Talk of Wealth Gap Prods the G.O.P. to Refocus

    Quote Originally Posted by Fiddytree View Post
    It was a damning statement. Furthermore, in politics you run on being "higher than sleaze" but you must engage in it. Being two-faced is the norm and is what the American people actually want. The American people want the veneer of positive campaigns to believe they are good people at heart, but actually deeply desire the vitriol of sleaze.
    It was only damning to the extent that he was being honest. I am a progressive. We have free loaders--those free loaders keep us from helping people who need help. We gots to keep our houses in order too.

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    Re: Talk of Wealth Gap Prods the G.O.P. to Refocus

    Quote Originally Posted by Declan View Post
    It was only damning to the extent that he was being honest. I am a progressive. We have free loaders--those free loaders keep us from helping people who need help. We gots to keep our houses in order too.
    If you're running for office in a liberal democracy, you must make the public think you like them, while potentially suggesting that they have to sacrifice a few things to be in a position of satisfaction. Romney's statement didn't really do that.
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    Re: Talk of Wealth Gap Prods the G.O.P. to Refocus

    Quote Originally Posted by Fiddytree View Post
    If you're running for office in a liberal democracy, you must make the public think you like them, while potentially suggesting that they have to sacrifice a few things to be in a position of satisfaction. Romney's statement didn't really do that.
    Yeah, but I didn't care about that. It was an honest statement. There are things seriously broken with welfare--denying it and pretending problems do not exist and screaming about the GOP hatefullness might be fun, but it doesn't fix that which is broken. There are things that companies do right---companies like Walmart--and that should be recognized. The list goes on. I make jokes, but when the rubber hits the road, I don't play games and I don't vote for or support candidates who do. Maybe that means my votes don't count, but they count to me. Democrats mostly are just as sucky sucky as the GOP. Not always, but mostly.

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    Re: Talk of Wealth Gap Prods the G.O.P. to Refocus

    Quote Originally Posted by Declan View Post
    It was only damning to the extent that he was being honest. I am a progressive. We have free loaders--those free loaders keep us from helping people who need help. We gots to keep our houses in order too.
    Yes, that exists. But claiming it's 47% of the population based on paying federal income taxes? Insane. And completely disconnected from the population.
    He touched her over her bra and underpants, she says, and guided her hand to touch him over his underwear
    Quote Originally Posted by Lutherf View Post
    We’ll say what? Something like “nothing happened” ... Yeah, we might say something like that.

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    Re: Talk of Wealth Gap Prods the G.O.P. to Refocus

    Quote Originally Posted by Declan View Post
    Yeah, but I didn't care about that. It was an honest statement. There are things seriously broken with welfare--denying it and pretending problems do not exist and screaming about the GOP hatefullness might be fun, but it doesn't fix that which is broken. There are things that companies do right---companies like Walmart--and that should be recognized. The list goes on. I make jokes, but when the rubber hits the road, I don't play games and I don't vote for or support candidates who do. Maybe that means my votes don't count, but they count to me. Democrats mostly are just as sucky sucky as the GOP. Not always, but mostly.
    But Romney didn't say "there's problems with welfare."

    He said 47% of the population couldn't be convinced to take responsibility for themselves.
    He touched her over her bra and underpants, she says, and guided her hand to touch him over his underwear
    Quote Originally Posted by Lutherf View Post
    We’ll say what? Something like “nothing happened” ... Yeah, we might say something like that.

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    Re: Talk of Wealth Gap Prods the G.O.P. to Refocus

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    But Romney didn't say "there's problems with welfare."

    He said 47% of the population couldn't be convinced to take responsibility for themselves.
    Nope - Romney said that running on a policy of federal income tax rate reductions would have no appeal to those that pay no such taxes.
    “The reasonable man adapts himself to the world: the unreasonable one persists to adapt the world to himself.
    Therefore all progress depends on the unreasonable man.” ― George Bernard Shaw, Man and Superman

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