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Talk of Wealth Gap Prods the G.O.P. to Refocus

Declan said:
Yep....
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Where's your proof? We have Romney on tape. And there is no point in doing that fir Obama. It would be like a jew being antisemetic. Makes no sense.
 
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Declan said:
I prefer to think of it as tough love, but looter works I suppose.
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tough love would apply Darwinian principles to such people
 
Declan said:
Probably true, but that is part of his down-home folksy charm wouldn't you say?
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No it's a serious flaw. Look how little the right respects Biden for his frequent gaffs.
 
ttwtt78640 said:
Nope - Romney said that running on a policy of federal income tax rate reductions would have no appeal to those that pay no such taxes.
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Sorry the tape doesn't lie. You lose.
 
TurtleDude said:
tough love would apply Darwinian principles to such people
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If there is one thing that I am certain of, those rich conservatives are evolution-resistant bacteria
 
Declan said:
If there is one thing that I am certain of, those rich conservatives are evolution-resistant bacteria
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I am not conservative so you may be right when it comes to the bible thumpers. but Progressives mainly try to justify their envy and excuse their failures by pretending their solutions are actually designed to help society rather than salve the butt hurt they experience
 
TurtleDude said:
I am not conservative so you may be right when it comes to the bible thumpers. but Progressives mainly try to justify their envy and excuse their failures by pretending their solutions are actually designed to help society rather than salve the butt hurt they experience
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I didn't say you were a conservative--personal attacks are against the rules.
 
JANFU said:
The wealth gap- Romney & J Bush on board- it is a problem. Thoughts are?
http://www.nytimes.com/2015/01/22/b...-inequality-prods-republicans-to-refocus.html

Mitt Romney, vowing a campaign to “end the scourge of poverty” if he runs for president a third time, has backed raising the minimum wage over the wishes of congressional leaders.

Similarly, Jeb Bush’s new “super PAC,” announced with the fanfare of a presidential declaration, proclaimed, “While the last eight years have been pretty good ones for top earners, they’ve been a lost decade for the rest of America.”
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stupid. you want to attract voters come up with something better. give companies additional tax deductions for higher wage increases.
give them a reason to pay people more and they will take it.

it doesn't cost anything in fact it makes more money as people earn more they pay more tax.
come up with something different and innovative rather than trying to copy the current meme.
 
cpwill said:
Yeah. I haven't seen any of the conservative "thinkers / speakers" come out in favor of it, either. Even Coulter, who was a big Romney fan last time, says he shouldn't run.
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Then it will be Bush. You guys are sure stuck in a rut. Christie is going to Iowa though and is going to try and charm his way into their hearts. I don't think anyone from the Northeast has a chance though. Christie will last as long as Guiliani in the midwest or the south.
 
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Hatuey said:
... Uh... I thought the wealth was supposed to trickle down from the top earners... Aren't top earners the job creators? The people who make sure we have enough to feed our families? Aren't they the people we should all be grateful to for you know... our economic existence? :lol:
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You're forgetting that a "...rising tide lifts all ... yachts..."
 
Declan said:
And Obama will talk about the working mom and pop and then fly off to a $25K a plat fundraiser. What do you think he says to them?
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It's a pity that you fail to see the remarkable difference in the two.
 
JANFU said:
The wealth gap- Romney & J Bush on board- it is a problem. Thoughts are?
http://www.nytimes.com/2015/01/22/b...-inequality-prods-republicans-to-refocus.html

Mitt Romney, vowing a campaign to “end the scourge of poverty” if he runs for president a third time, has backed raising the minimum wage over the wishes of congressional leaders.

Similarly, Jeb Bush’s new “super PAC,” announced with the fanfare of a presidential declaration, proclaimed, “While the last eight years have been pretty good ones for top earners, they’ve been a lost decade for the rest of America.”
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We don't need either of them running. Funny, but where the hell is the support for mushy, middle of the road RINOs? Almost as bad as Hillary. This country desperately needs a true conservative. Reagan only had two tremendous landslides, that might be a good way to go. Just a hunch.
 
Hatuey said:
... Uh... I thought the wealth was supposed to trickle down from the top earners... Aren't top earners the job creators? The people who make sure we have enough to feed our families? Aren't they the people we should all be grateful to for you know... our economic existence? :lol:
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That is totally not true with financial instruments. Not sure if you were being sarcastic or not, so forgive me if you were.
 
ludin said:
stupid. you want to attract voters come up with something better. give companies additional tax deductions for higher wage increases.
give them a reason to pay people more and they will take it.

it doesn't cost anything in fact it makes more money as people earn more they pay more tax.
come up with something different and innovative rather than trying to copy the current meme.
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The facts are trickle down doesn't work and the uber rich that are supposed to create jobs don't. It's the small businesses in this country that create jobs. The wealthy just horde their money and ship it off to offshore accounts so they can avoid taxes.

Trickle down is more like piss down.

And furthermore I've seen industry after industry move in to my area lured by tax incentives or no taxes at all for a period of time. Guess what? The wages aren't any higher than the other mediocre wages in the region and as soon as the tax incentives expire the industry moves on to the next sucker.


http://www.neweconomics.org/blog/entry/the-embarrassing-truth-about-trickle-down

http://leftfootforward.org/2013/04/tax-avoidance-and-the-myth-of-trickle-down-wealth/

http://www.hks.harvard.edu/news-eve.../autumn-2009/trickle-down-economics-revisited
 
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EnigmaO01 said:
The facts are trickle down doesn't work and the uber rich that are supposed to create jobs don't. It's the small businesses in this country that create jobs. The wealthy just horde their money and ship it off to offshore accounts so they can avoid taxes.

Trickle down is more like piss down.
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yes and where do you think those small businesses get money to startup?
they get loans where do you think the loans come from? banks and rich people.

what you just described is money laundering. it is illegal and a criminal offense.
people that make money overseas with overseas investment is not shipping money offshore.

any money that has been invested overseas has already had taxes paid on that money.

Romney and Bush are not going to beat democrats at their own game of class warfare.
they need to come up with a better plan.
 
iguanaman said:
Then it will be Bush. You guys are sure stuck in a rut. Christie is going to Iowa though and is going to try and charm his way into their hearts. I don't think anyone from the Northeast has a chance though. Christie will last as long as Guiliani in the midwest or the south.
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Meh. Bush comes with a lot of baggage for the GOP primary electorate. If Romney decides to bow out and toss all of his infrastructure, donor lists, staff, etc. to Bush, then that would give him an advantage. :shrug: we'll see.
 
JANFU said:
The wealth gap- Romney & J Bush on board- it is a problem. Thoughts are?
http://www.nytimes.com/2015/01/22/b...-inequality-prods-republicans-to-refocus.html

Mitt Romney, vowing a campaign to “end the scourge of poverty” if he runs for president a third time, has backed raising the minimum wage over the wishes of congressional leaders.

Similarly, Jeb Bush’s new “super PAC,” announced with the fanfare of a presidential declaration, proclaimed, “While the last eight years have been pretty good ones for top earners, they’ve been a lost decade for the rest of America.”
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On one hand, we have right wingers claiming that the last election proves that the nation has rejected liberalism while on the other hand we have the leading GOP candidates for president in 2016 embracing liberal rhetoric and policies in an attempt to gain votes.

The contradictions is delicious.
 
cpwill said:
Meh. Bush comes with a lot of baggage for the GOP primary electorate. If Romney decides to bow out and toss all of his infrastructure, donor lists, staff, etc. to Bush, then that would give him an advantage. :shrug: we'll see.
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Since when do GOP primaries have anything to do with who gets nominated? Romney was not popular with the base until he got the nomination.
 
sangha said:
On one hand, we have right wingers claiming that the last election proves that the nation has rejected liberalism while on the other hand we have the leading GOP candidates for president in 2016 embracing liberal rhetoric and policies in an attempt to gain votes.

The contradictions is delicious.
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Aw, that's cute....You think everyone is liberal...:mrgreen:
 
EnigmaO01 said:
The facts are trickle down doesn't work and the uber rich that are supposed to create jobs don't. It's the small businesses in this country that create jobs. The wealthy just horde their money and ship it off to offshore accounts so they can avoid taxes.

Trickle down is more like piss down.
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No worries, a few more months and Obama and piss down economics will all be a thing of the past.
 
iguanaman said:
Since when do GOP primaries have anything to do with who gets nominated?
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Ah. This might get a bit complex, so, if you need me to draw it out a bit and explain some of the more tricky parts, let me know:

The GOP Primaries? They determine (that means "decides") who gets nominated.

Romney was not popular with the base until he got the nomination.
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Romney remained unpopular with the base. They simply thought he was far superior to the alternative.
 
cpwill said:
Romney remained unpopular with the base. They simply thought he was far superior to the alternative.
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Do in no small part to highly effective local negative ad campaigns against anybody close to him in the state.
 
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