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    Re: Montana oil spill renews worries over pipeline safety

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    Maybe you should put a proposal together and see. The tracks in the US suck all over.
    Well we clearly need to replace rail infrastructure. We have bridges from the 1800s that are still carrying trains. The other problem, is that a large amount of cross-country real traffic has to converge through choke points that are highly congested. And freight rail is hauling higher and higher volumes of traffic every year,
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    Re: Montana oil spill renews worries over pipeline safety

    Quote Originally Posted by MrVicchio View Post
    Not really. They'd just be another boondoggle waste of public money.
    Kind of like electricity, dams, and water supplies, all public boondoggles we should all do without
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    Re: Montana oil spill renews worries over pipeline safety

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    He'd rather we run trains down those rickety 100 year old tracks.
    No, I'd rather they take their Canadian oil and transport it across Canadian land, instead of putting American land at risk for Canadian profits.
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    Re: Montana oil spill renews worries over pipeline safety

    Quote Originally Posted by ironhorse View Post
    So is it just Canadian oil you want to boycott or all oil from all countries arriving on our shores by ships that can and do run aground and then transported by road or rail where spills also occur? My guess is you are so anti oil you would stop it all if you could.
    Until of course that ran energy prices up, and then she would be looking for the government to subsidize it.

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    Re: Montana oil spill renews worries over pipeline safety

    Quote Originally Posted by EMNofSeattle View Post
    Well we clearly need to replace rail infrastructure. We have bridges from the 1800s that are still carrying trains. The other problem, is that a large amount of cross-country real traffic has to converge through choke points that are highly congested. And freight rail is hauling higher and higher volumes of traffic every year,
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    Re: Montana oil spill renews worries over pipeline safety

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    I wasn't so much thinking about the construction materials, as much as we have some obsolete infrastructure, and a lot of it is beyond traffic capacity. Wooden trestles are just fine running through the mountains. But a lot of railroad bridges, in urban areas do not have enough trackway, or too many trains are running on them. there's one example on the Potomac River, of a brick railroad bridge that is obsolete simply because it was built before modern ships and boats and it's a swing open bridge, and it has to swing open to let a lot of ships through which delays trains. That type a thing as more of what I was thinking about
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    Re: Montana oil spill renews worries over pipeline safety

    Quote Originally Posted by Tettsuo View Post
    No, I'd rather they take their Canadian oil and transport it across Canadian land, instead of putting American land at risk for Canadian profits.
    I'd rather those Canadian profits be used to pay for American workers, American refineries.

    Currently only United States has the type to refineries needed to refine that heavy oil, and see here's the deal, if we don't move on the deal eventually TransCanada will just build refineries in British Columbia to refine that oil, and if you know anything about British Columbia, their environmental regulations are not near as good as ours, he'll probably week all kinds of oil out into the water surrounding Vancouver Island at the expense of Washington and Oregon fisheries and waterfront interests
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    Re: Montana oil spill renews worries over pipeline safety

    Quote Originally Posted by MrVicchio View Post
    Not really. They'd just be another boondoggle waste of public money.
    Railroad tracks aren't repaired or paid for by the government. The railroads and their workers do it themselves.

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    Re: Montana oil spill renews worries over pipeline safety

    Quote Originally Posted by MrVicchio View Post
    Today a grandmother fell down her stairs and died somewhere in America. We should immediately ban all stair cases. Somewhere else, a child choked to death on solid food, we should ban solid foods. Als in breaking news snow is cold and children get frostbit, children should be banned from touching snow and parents should be jailed if they allow their kids near that danger.
    Right, because a single person or family is the same as environmental damage to an entire region's water source. /sarcasm

    I wonder, is this the typical limited view that allows people to just dismiss environmental harm outright?
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    Re: Montana oil spill renews worries over pipeline safety

    Quote Originally Posted by EnigmaO01 View Post
    Railroad tracks aren't repaired or paid for by the government. The railroads and their workers do it themselves.
    Plenty of govt subsidies to be had.
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    I have felt pain when I was in the womb. So when you say they are incapable of feeling pain, that is based on junk science.
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