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    Re: Montana oil spill renews worries over pipeline safety

    Quote Originally Posted by Tettsuo View Post
    My preferred method is for the US not to take the risk of contaminating our lands to transport CANADIAN oil.
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    Re: Montana oil spill renews worries over pipeline safety

    Quote Originally Posted by Tettsuo View Post
    Montana oil spill renews worries over pipeline safety

    We should totally build an even BIGGER pipeline that runs right through America's breadbasket to make it easier for Canadian companies to send the worse oil through! /sarcasm
    The key part of this is right there in the opening paragraph of your story... "oversight of the nation's aging pipeline network." Aging.

    Oversight if infrastructure in all of its forms (transportation of energy, transportation of other goods, movement of the populace, information exchange, etc.) all requires upkeep, improvement, and changes to reflect needs that are usually not static.

    I'll agree with you that I do not like the idea of TransCanada using the American government to get a pipeline extension that requires obtaining land that neither party owns, perhaps by domain fight for at least part of. And on top of that to move oil that has little impact for American energy needs.

    There are problems with Keystone XL extensions desires by Republicans, but using this article as a means to suggest we not keep up with existing energy infrastructure needs and future needs goes directly against the article itself.
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    Re: Montana oil spill renews worries over pipeline safety

    Quote Originally Posted by ironhorse View Post
    What is your preferred method to transport oil? Trains derail, ships sink, trucks crash.
    How about the Canadians just build their own refineries, instead of piping it all the way to the gulf?

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    Re: Montana oil spill renews worries over pipeline safety

    Quote Originally Posted by ironhorse View Post
    I read you loud and clear now. You are fine with the possibility of contaminating our land and sea with any other oil than Canadian oil. Makes no sense to me but if you hate Canada that bad so be it.
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    What is your preferred method to transport oil? Trains derail, ships sink, trucks crash.
    What the vast majority of folks fail to realise, that is they don't know how ignorant they are, a Keystone pipeline already exists which brings the tarsands oil as far south as Cushing OK. The new pipeline's primary purpose is to shorten the length of pipeline, unfortunately the shortest route leads over the Ogallala Aquifer which supplies water to agriculture in the middle of the country.

    Here's the Wiki map showing existing and proposed Keystone
    Keystone-pipeline-route.jpg

    Then there's the ever so small matter of a foreign corporation seizing American property. Which does cause me to wonder about those "conservatives" and "libertarians" who constantly rant about the federal government overstepping the boundaries but for some reason they remain silent on this case.

    TransCanada Tries To Seize U.S. Land For Keystone Pipeline

    New suits filed this past week as Keystone XL Pipeline Files for Eminent Domain in Nebraska
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    Re: Montana oil spill renews worries over pipeline safety

    What seems to be lost in the discussions about Keystone, is that oil
    whatever the source is the raw material.
    Thorough refining, we manufacturer finished fuel products, and many other things.
    We need some manufacturing basis to drive the economy, Services alone will not do it.

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    Re: Montana oil spill renews worries over pipeline safety

    Quote Originally Posted by ironhorse View Post
    What is your preferred method to transport oil? Trains derail, ships sink, trucks crash.
    He'd rather we run trains down those rickety 100 year old tracks.
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    Re: Montana oil spill renews worries over pipeline safety

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    He'd rather we run trains down those rickety 100 year old tracks.
    Replacing "those rickety 100 year old tracks" would create more jobs for a longer period than constructing the Keystone Pipeline
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    Re: Montana oil spill renews worries over pipeline safety

    Quote Originally Posted by Tettsuo View Post
    Montana oil spill renews worries over pipeline safety

    We should totally build an even BIGGER pipeline that runs right through America's breadbasket to make it easier for Canadian companies to send the worse oil through! /sarcasm
    Today a grandmother fell down her stairs and died somewhere in America. We should immediately ban all stair cases. Somewhere else, a child choked to death on solid food, we should ban solid foods. Als in breaking news snow is cold and children get frostbit, children should be banned from touching snow and parents should be jailed if they allow their kids near that danger.
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    Re: Montana oil spill renews worries over pipeline safety

    Quote Originally Posted by Somerville View Post
    Replacing "those rickety 100 year old tracks" would create more jobs for a longer period than constructing the Keystone Pipeline
    Not really. They'd just be another boondoggle waste of public money.
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    Re: Montana oil spill renews worries over pipeline safety

    Quote Originally Posted by Somerville View Post
    Replacing "those rickety 100 year old tracks" would create more jobs for a longer period than constructing the Keystone Pipeline
    Maybe you should put a proposal together and see. The tracks in the US suck all over.
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