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    Re: House GOP drops controversial abortion bill ahead of Roe v. Wade anniversary

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    House GOP drops controversial abortion bill ahead of Roe v. Wade anniversary
    I already said it was a bad idea to do so...At least 3 times now that I know of today....What the hell do you want?

    There is nothing to bash. I'm gloating in the idea that the GOP dropped a bill because they're now worried about votes.
    So, you posted this article just to goad people, and antagonize them....Is that what I am reading from you now?
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    Re: House GOP drops controversial abortion bill ahead of Roe v. Wade anniversary

    Quote Originally Posted by OrphanSlug View Post
    As a Libertarian I am not for outlawing abortions outright, but I am for removal of how we seem to have circumvented the Hyde Amendment.

    There seems to be a fair level of confusion and concern with what Planned Parenthood is using their well north of $1 Million per day from the government to exactly fund. There is very little accounting of what Planned Parenthood allocates that money to other than "services." Under that category ends up just about all Planned Parenthood does, and as of recent Planned Parenthood rejects the idea of being accountable to the GAO or Congress on where all that money goes.

    But more to the point of this thread it is not a general statement about medical procedures funded by the government, just a point of contention on where the line should be for the abortion debate. It seems to me a good compromise between the pro-abortion group and pro-life group is to ensure government is entirely out of the mix. Put the onus on the individual to decide these things and fund their own decision to end life. There may be a certain subset of conditions where a government funded abortion to those of need is acceptable in those cases of rape, incest, etc. But we seem to be shying away from that conversation here, and I would be against more government funding of any regard (especially in the context of this topic.)

    I have no choice ideologically to be against the idea that we have designed a way for an organization to perform so many abortions, seemingly on the government dime, with zero accountability as to the numbers of abortions they have achieved and how they funded all these procedures. I am not asking for HIPAA or ACA privacy laws to be broken, just some degree of reporting to ensure that Planned Parenthood is doing what they claim they are.
    Actually Planned Parenthood is not given public funds in a general fund.

    Planned Parenthood centers are reimbursed by the government for providing specific preventive health services, such as cervical-cancer screenings, breast exams, testing for disease and birth control for their low-income patients, just the same way as private doctors and other health clinics are reimbursed for providimg specific health services for their low income patients.
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    Re: House GOP drops controversial abortion bill ahead of Roe v. Wade anniversary

    Quote Originally Posted by minnie616 View Post
    Actually Planned Parenthood is not given public funds in a general fund.

    Planned Parenthood centers are reimbursed by the government for providing specific preventive health services, such as cervical-cancer screenings, breast exams, testing for disease and birth control for their low-income patients, just the same way as private doctors and other health clinics are reimbursed for providimg specific health services for their low income patients.
    Precisely. Because, as everyone knows, money isn't fungible.

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    Re: House GOP drops controversial abortion bill ahead of Roe v. Wade anniversary

    Quote Originally Posted by OrphanSlug View Post
    I would rather that Republicans focus on ending government funded abortions, instead of working so hard to define limits which give us these sort of problems to contend with.
    I'd rather see them focus on things that benefit the American people, not just bills that burnish their political currency.


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    Re: House GOP drops controversial abortion bill ahead of Roe v. Wade anniversary

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    So FOX News is wrong and they didn't drop the bill in order to not alienate women voters?
    If that is what FOX is claiming, then yes. This limitation on abortion is more popular with women than men.

    Yep, and if they dropped them so that they wouldn't alienate voters, they also didn't stand up for what they believed in.
    Yup. Unforced Error. Way to start the year off by making yourself look incompetent and untrustworthy, GOP leadership

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    Re: House GOP drops controversial abortion bill ahead of Roe v. Wade anniversary

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    I already said it was a bad idea to do so.
    Good grief, try and follow a conversation. You stated they didn't drop it. I stated that they did. You said they didn't again. DID YOU READ THE ARTICLE?!?! They dropped it.

    So, you posted this article just to goad people
    I didn't post any article. Republicans were scared of what women voters thought of their policies on abortion so they dropped the bill. Own it.
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    Re: House GOP drops controversial abortion bill ahead of Roe v. Wade anniversary

    Quote Originally Posted by minnie616 View Post
    Actually Planned Parenthood is not given public funds in a general fund.

    Planned Parenthood centers are reimbursed by the government for providing specific preventive health services, such as cervical-cancer screenings, breast exams, testing for disease and birth control for their low-income patients, just the same way as private doctors and other health clinics are reimbursed for providimg specific health services for their low income patients.
    Is money fungible Minnie?
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    Re: House GOP drops controversial abortion bill ahead of Roe v. Wade anniversary

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    If that is what FOX is claiming, then yes. This limitation on abortion is more popular with women than men.
    The legislation being popular with some women voters and it alienating women voters are two different things. The two can be mutually exclusive.
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    Re: House GOP drops controversial abortion bill ahead of Roe v. Wade anniversary

    Quote Originally Posted by minnie616 View Post
    Actually Planned Parenthood is not given public funds in a general fund.

    Planned Parenthood centers are reimbursed by the government for providing specific preventive health services, such as cervical-cancer screenings, breast exams, testing for disease and birth control for their low-income patients, just the same way as private doctors and other health clinics are reimbursed for providimg specific health services for their low income patients.
    So why not submit to GAO requests for audits?
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    Re: House GOP drops controversial abortion bill ahead of Roe v. Wade anniversary

    Quote Originally Posted by rocket88 View Post
    I'd rather see them focus on things that benefit the American people, not just bills that burnish their political currency.
    Good luck with that (but I agree, it would be nice.)
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