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    Re: House GOP drops controversial abortion bill ahead of Roe v. Wade anniversary

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    So, just say it out loud...you consider abortion a matter of convenience....
    We are two males arguing over a woman's right to choose. There's something ironic about that.

    Oh, so now its a matter of past transgressions eh? How in the world do you put the two even in the same thread, unless you have seething contempt for this nation.
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    Re: House GOP drops controversial abortion bill ahead of Roe v. Wade anniversary

    Quote Originally Posted by Lursa View Post
    So the kid is just punishment for having sex then?
    No, the child is what will occur from the act...If you don't know that then there is another failure of our public ed system.

    OK, I may not place as much value on the unborn but I certainly value kids.
    "may not"? Now there is a colossal understatement. And just how do you think you value kids? Is that if they manage to be lucky enough not to be murdered in the womb?

    So you might look in the mirror regarding that 'disgusting' comment.
    Nah, I value life....I don't throw it away because I got drunk, and messed up.....

    And you couldnt even answer my question honestly..."Do you teach your own kids that those things in life are just 'conveniences?' Or are they important responsibilities in life that determine the direction and quality of their lives? "
    All of those things are of course important, and included with that is that they wait to have children until they are ready, and if they don't accomplish these things first, they aren't ready are they?

    It's probably too much to ask why you think you have the right to judge a woman and decide the unborn is more entitled to all those things than her.
    It's probably too much to ask you why you think it is perfectly fine to snuff out a defenseless life because you ordered too many tequila shots one night, and decided that you'd have sex anyway before you were done putting your own life together...Why are you more entitled to life than that of a child?
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    Re: House GOP drops controversial abortion bill ahead of Roe v. Wade anniversary

    Quote Originally Posted by Phys251 View Post
    There's something ironic about that.
    What is ironic, and tone-deaf, is your signature, given who and what you are supporting.

    They obviously don't matter that much to you.

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    Re: House GOP drops controversial abortion bill ahead of Roe v. Wade anniversary

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    We are two males arguing over a woman's right to choose. There's something ironic about that.
    Not that I think one must be the same sex as someone whose right one wishes to defend; but if there was any validity to that, then surely it matters that approximately half of the innocent victims of abortion are male. So even if you deny that a man may care about the lives of all the precious girls who are tragically slaughtered in this savage manner, that still leaves us with a valid concern for the lives of all the boys who fall to the same fate.
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    Re: House GOP drops controversial abortion bill ahead of Roe v. Wade anniversary

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    No, the child is what will occur from the act...If you don't know that then there is another failure of our public ed system.

    "may not"? Now there is a colossal understatement. And just how do you think you value kids? Is that if they manage to be lucky enough not to be murdered in the womb


    Nah, I value life....I don't throw it away because I got drunk, and messed up.....

    All of those things are of course important, and included with that is that they wait to have children until they are ready, and if they don't accomplish these things first, they aren't ready are they?

    It's probably too much to ask you why you think it is perfectly fine to snuff out a defenseless life because you ordered too many tequila shots one night, and decided that you'd have sex anyway before you were done putting your own life together...Why are you more entitled to life than that of a child?
    You dont value 'life.' You value life selectively. So do I but at least I admit it. You do not value women's lives. It's plain as day^^^^.

    You post is full of ignorance. But it makes plain what you think of women. And it's mostly wrong when it comes to abortion. BIrth control fails, so women should just never have sex? Yeah, men and women have sex and that isnt going to change...hasnt for millenia. So you would deny women enjoying sex? Disrespect. You dont care what happens to their lives, disrespect. You'd have millions of married couples that cant afford a kid, cant afford more kids, or never want kids to never have sex? Ludicrous.

    Do I place women above the unborn? Of course. Do I think the unborn are unimportant? No but women are more important. They are here, contributing to society while the unborn are not and may not survive to be born or might be born severely defective.

    Which one of those sounds logical and in the best interests of the individual and society? Placing women first. It's insulting to compare various undeveloped human stages to a complete woman just because you choose to judge her behavior.(Incorrectly for the most part as I pointed out.)

    Like I said, there's been no harm to society by abortion, but the benefits are well-known.
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    Re: House GOP drops controversial abortion bill ahead of Roe v. Wade anniversary

    Quote Originally Posted by Phys251 View Post
    We are two males arguing over a woman's right to choose. There's something ironic about that.



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    Re: House GOP drops controversial abortion bill ahead of Roe v. Wade anniversary

    Quote Originally Posted by Phys251 View Post
    We are two males arguing over a woman's right to choose. There's something ironic about that.


    agreed
    reminds me of straights arguing that gays cant have equal rights, or people not in interracial relationships saying interracial marriage should be illegal, men saying women shouldnt have equal rights, whites saying blacks shouldnt have equal rights etc etc

    ANYBODY that uses human or legal rights to argue for the banning of abortions (or making it "unlimited") has no logical and honest footing to stand on. Its selfishness and or not caring about equality or legal and human rights.
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    Re: House GOP drops controversial abortion bill ahead of Roe v. Wade anniversary

    Quote Originally Posted by Lursa View Post
    You dont value 'life.' You value life selectively. So do I but at least I admit it. You do not value women's lives. It's plain as day^^^^.

    You post is full of ignorance. But it makes plain what you think of women. And it's mostly wrong when it comes to abortion. BIrth control fails, so women should just never have sex? Yeah, men and women have sex and that isnt going to change...hasnt for millenia. So you would deny women enjoying sex? Disrespect. You dont care what happens to their lives, disrespect. You'd have millions of married couples that cant afford a kid, cant afford more kids, or never want kids to never have sex? Ludicrous.

    Do I place women above the unborn? Of course. Do I think the unborn are unimportant? No but women are more important. They are here, contributing to society while the unborn are not and may not survive to be born or might be born severely defective.

    Which one of those sounds logical and in the best interests of the individual and society? Placing women first. It's insulting to compare various undeveloped human stages to a complete woman just because you choose to judge her behavior.(Incorrectly for the most part as I pointed out.)

    Like I said, there's been no harm to society by abortion, but the benefits are well-known.
    Your argument here seems to be that women should never be responsible for their choices. Sorry, I don't see it that way. It takes two to make a child, and if the woman has the child, then you can rest assured that the father will have to pay for that child, or face jail, and he should...But, you want to have YOUR cake, and eat it too...

    The harm is in that over a million children are killed each year...That's astonishing, and sad.
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    Re: House GOP drops controversial abortion bill ahead of Roe v. Wade anniversary

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    agreed
    reminds me of straights arguing that gays cant have equal rights, or people not in interracial relationships saying interracial marriage should be illegal, men saying women shouldnt have equal rights, whites saying blacks shouldnt have equal rights etc etc

    ANYBODY that uses human or legal rights to argue for the banning of abortions (or making it "unlimited") has no logical and honest footing to stand on. Its selfishness and or not caring about equality or legal and human rights.
    Nonsense J....This isn't a gay rights thread, so run along now....
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    Re: House GOP drops controversial abortion bill ahead of Roe v. Wade anniversary

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Nonsense J....This isn't a gay rights thread, so run along now....
    weird who said it was? oh that right just a failed strawman you made up lol

    nothing changes what i said men arguing over this reminds me of straights arguing that gays cant have equal rights, or people not in interracial relationships saying interracial marriage should be illegal, men saying women shouldnt have equal rights, whites saying blacks shouldnt have equal rights etc etc

    fact remains ANYBODY that uses human or legal rights to argue for the banning of abortions (or making it "unlimited") has no logical and honest footing to stand on.
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