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U.S.: Putin's Peace Proposal for Ukraine is Nothing But 'Occupation Plan' [W:479]

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Simpleχity;1064300035 said:
The point is, don't count on Lady History to support your disingenuous abuse of her.

I hope that you follow your own advice.
 
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She was probably refering to Fox News.

Well, she didn't single any one out, she just said that American media was lacking the substance that can be found in international news. At any rate instead of blathering on about something you don't know anything about, how about watching her testimony and learning something before you make ill informed comments.
 
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Well, she didn't single any one out, she just said that American media was lacking the substance that can be found in international news. At any rate instead of blathering on about something you don't know anything about, how about watching her testimony and learning something before you make ill informed comments.

I'll tell you one thing, she certainly was NOT talking about Russian media when she refered to international news as being "informative".
 
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I'll tell you one thing, she certainly was NOT talking about Russian media when she refered to international news as being "informative".

Having failed to listen to her, you don't know what she was talking about.
 
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Well she's dumber than a box of rocks because Al Jazeera is a Qatari state owned propaganda mill directly funded and operated by the Wahhabist al-Thani royal family, if you disagree provide a single solitary article from Al Jazeera critical of the Qatari regime, and while you're at it sport provide a single solitary Russia Today article critical of Putin. I'll be waiting with baited breath. Furthermore; I'll reiiterate my point that EVERY SINGLE SOLITARY press freedom index on the planet lists the US press as free and fair and EVERY SINGLE SOLITARY press freedom index on the planet lists the Russian Federation's press as not free.

   U.S. Drops to 49th in World Press Freedom Ranking:   :  Information Clearing House - ICH

U.S. Drops to 49th in World Press Freedom Ranking:
"By Glenn Greenwald
February 13, 2015 "ICH" - "The Intercept" - Each year, Reporters Without Borders issues a worldwide ranking of nations based on the extent to which they protect or abridge press freedom. The group’s 2015 ranking was released this morning, and the United States is ranked 49th.

That is the lowest ranking ever during the Obama presidency, and the second-lowest ranking for the U.S. since the rankings began in 2002 (in 2006, under Bush, the U.S. was ranked 53rd). The countries immediately ahead of the U.S. are Malta, Niger, Burkino Faso, El Salvador, Tonga, Chile and Botswana."'
 
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Having failed to listen to her, you don't know what she was talking about.

No one with any sense of logic or intelligence believes that Russian media is "informative".

Its simply a modern version of Soviet Pravda.
 
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A bit dated article, you'd have noticed if you read, but then you don't care. Actually, you should watch, yes its available, the video of her testimony before congress on this subject. You might (should) be embarrassed about the American press.
Maybe you should leave a link so there is no ambiguity.
 
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You don't have google.
 
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U.S. Drops to 49th in World Press Freedom Ranking

2015-02-12
France24

Russia slipped to the 152nd spot after introducing "another string of draconian laws," website blocking and the extinction of independent media.

Yup. Russian media is dependable.
 
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Simpleχity;1064312689 said:
Yup. Russian media is dependable.

Ok, so US media is un dependable, and Russian media is less so. Ok we all feel better now.
 
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You don't have google.
I do. It seems that you don't. Or it could be just poor form on your part.
 
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Ok, so US media is un dependable, and Russian media is less so. Ok we all feel better now.
None of them are 100% dependable. But many - like Russia - are really really bad.
 
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Simpleχity;1064312701 said:
None of them are 100% dependable. But many - like Russia - are really really bad.

The US seems to be ignoring the false photos of Russian military equipment being
shown to US Congress to get them to finance more war in Ukraine. I think the lack
of coverage and assessment of the egregious, heinous nature of the act reveals the
veneer of misinformation being spread by USA MSM and CIA perception management.
 
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The US seems to be ignoring the false photos of Russian military equipment being
shown to US Congress to get them to finance more war in Ukraine. I think the lack
of coverage and assessment of the egregious, heinous nature of the act reveals the
veneer of misinformation being spread by USA MSM and CIA perception management.
Speaking of photos lol. Your little Commie rants always remind me of this visual...

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Perhaps I should clarify that for you then. An opinion is a subjective interpretation a fact is not

Facts are not opinions

The difference being I use facts to qualify my opinion rather than using the subjective interpretation of somebody else's opinions to buttress petty bigotries

No evidence is evidence and can be incontravertibly recognised as such. Opinion is subjective and therefore open to multiple interpretation

I have at all times qualified my position using fact rather than opinion on this issue

I respect verifiable fact over belief and opinion every time. It serves me well. You for example clearly believe the US is responsible for what has happened in Ukraine irrespective of the complete lack of facts or evidence that would support such a contention and based on any opinion that feeds your anti US xenophobia. I do not
As already said = "If you do not respect the opinions of others then the defect is in your self and not in our evidence."

You are following the unwholesome example of our idiotic leaders.

I see this pompous pretentious perspective as the same problem with the USA acting as if we do not respect the opinions of Russia, as if our American belligerence is the FACTS and everything from Russia are not respected as being just their opinions, as if we were going to just prance into the Ukraine with our opinionated FACTS which has not turned out as the reality.

As such Russia has annexed the Crimea as one of their "opinions", and Russia rules over the western Ukraine as another one of their opinions, and they demonstrated to the USA and to Britain that they Russia can attack and can turn us into nuclear ash and rubble as another one of their opinions, while the USA is still being belligerent and arrogant by viewing our demands as being the FACTS as we do not respect the opinions of Russia.

As such the USA is acting as a land of fools, and it is our disrespect of others which makes our own opinions as worthless and immature.
 
Re: U.S.: Putin's Peace Proposal for Ukraine is Nothing But 'Occupation Plan'

The US seems to be ignoring the false photos of Russian military equipment being
shown to US Congress to get them to finance more war in Ukraine. I think the lack
of coverage and assessment of the egregious, heinous nature of the act reveals the
veneer of misinformation being spread by USA MSM and CIA perception management.

What about the photo of Russian Marines fighting at the Donetsk airport?

Or the stories of hundreds of Russian soldiers being buried after battle in Ukraine?

Or the video of a Russian paratrooper captured in Ukraine?
 
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Secretary of State Hillary Clinton said on Wednesday that Al Jazeera is gaining more prominence in the U.S. because it offers "real news" -- something she said American media were falling far short of doing.
I agree that when we hear News from Al-Qaeda or from ISIL then they tell the cold hard truth without drama or pretensions.

The Western News is so full of propaganda and twisted info that it is NOT real News.


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Simpleχity;1064312923 said:
Speaking of photos lol. Your little Commie rants always remind me of this visual...

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I found out years later from a British book that when Khrushchev banged his shoe on the table at the U.N. it was because he wanted to create a real nuclear arms treaty to protect the planet earth from certain destruction and the other UN member States representatives would NOT listen to him.

At that time Premier Khrushchev was arguably the most powerful man on the planet earth, and the western News reports made fun of him banging his shoe but NEVER reported that he was arguing for a substantial nuclear arms treaty as the western News did not want the American public to know that truth.
 
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What about the photo of Russian Marines fighting at the Donetsk airport?

Or the stories of hundreds of Russian soldiers being buried after battle in Ukraine?

Or the video of a Russian paratrooper captured in Ukraine?

I'm waiting to see your photos, with backgrounds and newspapers or whatever that documents
the time and place. It is exactly these false photos that we are talking about.
 
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No johhny come lately, websites are everywhere and anywhere. And do you believe your opinion is all that gets play anywhere, lol. A mighty high opinion you have of yourself.

When I provide undeniable statistics regarding the majority populations in Eastern Ukraine and you scream "western propaganda" it's clear where you belong. But I guess you're right facts do have a decidedly western bias. :roll:
 
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** U.S. Drops to 49th in World Press Freedom Ranking:** :* Information Clearing House - ICH

U.S. Drops to 49th in World Press Freedom Ranking:
"By Glenn Greenwald
February 13, 2015 "ICH" - "The Intercept" - Each year, Reporters Without Borders issues a worldwide ranking of nations based on the extent to which they protect or abridge press freedom. The group’s 2015 ranking was released this morning, and the United States is ranked 49th.

That is the lowest ranking ever during the Obama presidency, and the second-lowest ranking for the U.S. since the rankings began in 2002 (in 2006, under Bush, the U.S. was ranked 53rd). The countries immediately ahead of the U.S. are Malta, Niger, Burkino Faso, El Salvador, Tonga, Chile and Botswana."'

First of all ICH is a laughable conspiracy theory website on par with prison planet, that being said Reporters Without Borders still lists the US press as free "satisfactory" as opposed to the Russian Federation:

image.adapt.990.high.1423760904426.jpg
 
Re: U.S.: Putin's Peace Proposal for Ukraine is Nothing But 'Occupation Plan'

I'm waiting to see your photos, with backgrounds and newspapers or whatever that documents
the time and place. It is exactly these false photos that we are talking about.

Here, for you to enjoy.

Russian Marines at Donetsk airport

Russian Showed Russian Troops Inside Ukraine - Business Insider

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wz5qHK3o8hQ&feature=player_embedded

Russian soldiers buried after fighting in Ukraine.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=_bkv6MKClCo

Russian paratrooper captured in Ukraine.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=4TTuR1y-Ui4

Russian tank in Ukraine.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=wATv2V_tGEA

Russian soldiers talk with reporters in Donbas

Café encounter exposes reality of Russian soldiers in Ukraine - FT.com

OSCE reports of large caravans of military equipment moving West into rebel held territory.

Spot report by the OSCE Special Monitoring Mission to Ukraine (SMM), 8 November 2014 | OSCE

Spot report by the OSCE Special Monitoring Mission to Ukraine (SMM), 9 November 2014 | OSCE

Spot report by the OSCE Special Monitoring Mission to Ukraine (SMM), 11 November 2014 | OSCE
 
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Here, for you to enjoy.

Russian Marines at Donetsk airport

Russian Showed Russian Troops Inside Ukraine - Business Insider

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wz5qHK3o8hQ&feature=player_embedded

Russian soldiers buried after fighting in Ukraine.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=_bkv6MKClCo

Russian paratrooper captured in Ukraine.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=4TTuR1y-Ui4

Russian tank in Ukraine.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=wATv2V_tGEA

Russian soldiers talk with reporters in Donbas

Café encounter exposes reality of Russian soldiers in Ukraine - FT.com

OSCE reports of large caravans of military equipment moving West into rebel held territory.

Spot report by the OSCE Special Monitoring Mission to Ukraine (SMM), 8 November 2014 | OSCE

Spot report by the OSCE Special Monitoring Mission to Ukraine (SMM), 9 November 2014 | OSCE

Spot report by the OSCE Special Monitoring Mission to Ukraine (SMM), 11 November 2014 | OSCE


The links are invalid.
 
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First of all ICH is a laughable conspiracy theory website on par with prison planet, that being said Reporters Without Borders still lists the US press as free "satisfactory" as opposed to the Russian Federation:

image.adapt.990.high.1423760904426.jpg


When a person is caught with their pants down, they always claim CT, Conspiracy Theory because they don't think they have to provide any real proof.
I'll be sure to get my infor from Canada, Germany, Finland, Norway, Sweden and New Zealand for it to be good. Glad you updated me on that/
 
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