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    Re: U.S.: Putin's Peace Proposal for Ukraine is Nothing But 'Occupation Plan'

    Quote Originally Posted by Roadvirus View Post
    We invaded Afghanistan because of the Taliban and Al-Queda.
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    We use drone strikes to kill terrorists.

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    Yessir, all the way, and Pat Tillman was killed by enemy fire, Jessica Lynch was mistreated by her captors, and Bill Clinton never had sex with that woman. Yessir, whatever you say.

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    Re: U.S.: Putin's Peace Proposal for Ukraine is Nothing But 'Occupation Plan'

    Quote Originally Posted by JP Cusick View Post
    I say that you are just being cowardly by attacking the messengers while avoiding the message.

    It was said on CNN by the US President on February 1, 2015.

    See it here = https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bmUNCsT8TjU
    Yes but lets see the context of that interview our Russian friends didn't show after chopping Obama off in mid sentence and then looping the tape

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Duu6IwW3sbw

    Sinister stuff
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    Re: U.S.: Putin's Peace Proposal for Ukraine is Nothing But 'Occupation Plan'

    Quote Originally Posted by Simpleχity View Post
    Certainly a deal was brokered. It was reported around the globe. The deal was between Yanukovych and the opposition leaders. Present also were representatives of Germany, France, Poland, and Russia.
    Breakthrough? Ukrainian President, Opposition Leaders Reach Deal

    Rather than honor the breakthrough deal he signed, Yanukovych abdicated and fled that very night.
    Interestingly there was actually no US representative at all at that 'brokered' deal but there was one (ironically) from Russia

    Here are the names and nationalities of all those present

    Signatories:

    President of Ukraine: Viktor Yanukovych

    For the Opposition: Vitaliy Klichko, UDAR, Oleh Tyahnibok, Svoboda, Arsenij Yatseniuk, Batkivshchyna

    Witnessed by:

    For the EU – Poland: foreign minister Radoslaw Sikorski; Germany: foreign minister Frank-Walter Steinmeier; France: foreign minister Laurent Fabius

    For the Russian Federation – Vladimir Lukin, special envoy


    Where are the Americans who's evil designs were supposed to be all over this ?
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    Re: U.S.: Putin's Peace Proposal for Ukraine is Nothing But 'Occupation Plan'

    Quote Originally Posted by flogger View Post
    Interestingly there was actually no US representative at all at that 'brokered' deal...
    Nope. No Yank at all. Not a one. Even Russia's representative Vladimir Lukin would have to admit ... Nulevyye Amerikantsy.


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    Re: U.S.: Putin's Peace Proposal for Ukraine is Nothing But 'Occupation Plan'

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    You're persistent, you get an E for effort with the knuckle heads.
    I hope that you notice that I do not play it as their game is being played.

    As such I happily accept my "E for Effort" as it was hard earned.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Simpleχity View Post
    Certainly a deal was brokered. It was reported around the globe. The deal was between Yanukovych and the opposition leaders. Present also were representatives of Germany, France, Poland, and Russia.
    Not Russia.

    And excluding Russia made the deal as offensive.


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    Quote Originally Posted by flogger View Post
    Yes but lets see the context of that interview our Russian friends didn't show after chopping Obama off in mid sentence and then looping the tape

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Duu6IwW3sbw

    Sinister stuff
    No, what I said was accurate and it is still true.

    Washington Was Behind Ukraine Coup: Obama admits that US “Brokered a Deal” in Support of “Regime Change” | Global Research

    As such all the hostility in the Ukraine which followed that was the after effects of the USA creation.
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    Re: U.S.: Putin's Peace Proposal for Ukraine is Nothing But 'Occupation Plan'

    Quote Originally Posted by JP Cusick View Post
    Washington Was Behind Ukraine Coup: Obama admits that US “Brokered a Deal” in Support of “Regime Change” | Global Research

    As such all the hostility in the Ukraine which followed that was the after effects of the USA creation.


    Well you've got a big problem with that haven't you. How did the US broker this deal when no representative of the US was there ? When Obama said 'we' brokered it he was referring to the efforts of the international community that were engaged in it not the US which wasn't

    I guess Sputnik news missed that bit

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    Re: U.S.: Putin's Peace Proposal for Ukraine is Nothing But 'Occupation Plan'

    Quote Originally Posted by flogger View Post
    Well you've got a big problem with that haven't you. How did the US broker this deal when no representative of the US was there ? When Obama said 'we' brokered it he was referring to the efforts of the international community that were engaged in it not the US which wasn't

    I guess Sputnik news missed that bit
    The News report is honest and factual.

    It is just your self that is neither.
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    Re: U.S.: Putin's Peace Proposal for Ukraine is Nothing But 'Occupation Plan'

    Quote Originally Posted by JP Cusick View Post
    The News report is honest and factual.

    It is just your self that is neither.
    I'm more than happy to let more objective posters gauge for themselves what is honest and factual about Sputnik news !

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    Re: U.S.: Putin's Peace Proposal for Ukraine is Nothing But 'Occupation Plan'

    Quote Originally Posted by flogger View Post
    I'm more than happy to let more objective posters gauge for themselves what is honest and factual about Sputnik news !
    Do you really view other people as so cowardly that they too would only attack the messenger while hiding away from the message?

    I certainly hope that the other people are much bigger than that.
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    Re: U.S.: Putin's Peace Proposal for Ukraine is Nothing But 'Occupation Plan'

    Quote Originally Posted by JP Cusick View Post
    Not Russia. And excluding Russia made the deal as offensive.
    Sorry pal. Even your beloved Sputnik says Russian representatives were there...

    21 February 2014

    Negotiations between Ukrainian President Viktor Yanukovych, opposition leaders, European Union and Russian representatives have been completed, it said. The negotiations that lasted 8 hours involved opposition leaders Arseniy Yatsenyuk, Oleh Tyahnybok and Vitali Klitschko, German Foreign Minister Frank-Walter Steinmeier, Polish Foreign Minister Radoslaw Sikorski and Russian Human Rights Ombudsman Vladimir Lukin.
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