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    Re: U.S.: Putin's Peace Proposal for Ukraine is Nothing But 'Occupation Plan'

    Quote Originally Posted by DaveFagan View Post
    We're pretty sure it's all an act. Nobody could be that dumb. Maybe it's a good payday to pretend to ignorance at this late date. You're just here trolling and we know that, but not to worry, you've never stated anything worth quoting.
    And still no explanation on how the EU association agreement equates to NATO membership, it would seem that you are one of the mentally challenged members of Putin's Cult of Personality I was speaking of.

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    Re: U.S.: Putin's Peace Proposal for Ukraine is Nothing But 'Occupation Plan'

    Quote Originally Posted by DaveFagan View Post
    We're pretty sure it's all an act. Nobody could be that dumb. Maybe it's a good payday to pretend to ignorance at this late date. You're just here trolling and we know that, but not to worry, you've never stated anything worth quoting.
    Talk about irony !

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    Re: U.S.: Putin's Peace Proposal for Ukraine is Nothing But 'Occupation Plan'

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    Lol. Your a waste of my time. And but a pimple on Mearsheimer's ass.
    And yet another in a never ending non-responses.

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    Re: U.S.: Putin's Peace Proposal for Ukraine is Nothing But 'Occupation Plan'

    Quote Originally Posted by flogger View Post
    Well if this appeasement continues there will be war. It seems to be something you are hoping for
    There alread is war in the Ukraine, If Putin isnt stopped the war will expand.
    Appeasment never works long term.
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    Re: U.S.: Putin's Peace Proposal for Ukraine is Nothing But 'Occupation Plan' [W:479]

    Quote Originally Posted by austrianecon View Post
    LOL. A list is a list. Crowely gave the last to others to be release upon his death. From Daniel Brandt and your like... some half-dozen are either Trilateral Commission members, or Bilderberg participants, or both. You know who's on both and the Crowely list? Aatos Errko.

    But you got sloppy and tried to play a gotcha game.. You lose.
    The list is conspiracy theorist nonsense with absolutely zero evidence that it A) Came from Crowley and B) that it's factual.

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    Re: U.S.: Putin's Peace Proposal for Ukraine is Nothing But 'Occupation Plan'

    Quote Originally Posted by JP Cusick View Post
    That is being disingenuous as a play on words.

    The USA wants to control the Ukraine, so control is not exactly taking the Country.
    Russian tanks and troops currently occupy the Eastern Ukraine.

    In exchange for giving up nuclear arms the US promised the Ukraine that it would help protect the Ukraine's sovereignty. The Ukranian government is angry that the US hasn't done more.

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    Re: U.S.: Putin's Peace Proposal for Ukraine is Nothing But 'Occupation Plan'

    Quote Originally Posted by Quag View Post
    There alread is war in the Ukraine, If Putin isnt stopped the war will expand.
    Appeasment never works long term.
    Dictators simply get emboldened by it . Putin himself has claimed the break up of the USSR was the greatest disaster to befall his country in the last century. The lack of response from the west to this aggression will only encourage his attempts at re constituting the Russian empire.

    Putin was quoted threatening that Russia could be in Kiev in two days - and also in Riga, Vilnius, Tallinn, Warsaw and Bucharest

    All are former USSR or Soviet-bloc cities and apart from Ukraine their countries are now NATO and EU members

    This guy doesn't sound much like any kind of peacemaker to me. Nor that his current ambitions will be limited to Ukraine

    Moscow troops could be in five NATO capitals in two days, boasts Putin: Leader boasted to Ukrainian president about Russian power* | Daily Mail Online
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    Re: U.S.: Putin's Peace Proposal for Ukraine is Nothing But 'Occupation Plan'

    Quote Originally Posted by face, your View Post
    And still no explanation on how the EU association agreement equates to NATO membership, it would seem that you are one of the mentally challenged members of Putin's Cult of Personality I was speaking of.
    One quite naturally proceeds the other. Pity you don't understand that.
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    Re: U.S.: Putin's Peace Proposal for Ukraine is Nothing But 'Occupation Plan'

    Quote Originally Posted by flogger View Post
    Like I said . Take it up with interpol who reconfirmed his wanted status just last month. I suspect these may be some of their reasons

    http://www.buzzfeed.com/maxseddon/25...-t#.kueQKD15wJ
    Like I said.. Interpol is political so take it with a grain of salt. Evidence points not to SBU doing the shooting but others.
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    Re: U.S.: Putin's Peace Proposal for Ukraine is Nothing But 'Occupation Plan'

    Quote Originally Posted by Simpleχity View Post
    And I haven't supported any of those adventures ... on the same grounds that I do here. It is morally, ethically, and legally wrong. You just can't seem to comprehend that. No matter what anyone else has done, it does not exculpate Russia in regards to Crimea and Ukraine. It's not a difficult concept ... the same international rules apply equally to everyone.
    And yet you can't get around the concept, it doesn't. What is moral, ethical or legal is made as we go and always has. International rules have never been applied equally and you can see that from the fact that NO US President, political figure and so on have never been tried at the Hague for the crimes the US has committed. So don't even argue this high and mighty position with me.
    Every normal man must be tempted at times to spit on his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin to slit throats. It is inaccurate to say that I hate everything. I am strongly in favor of common sense, common honesty, and common decency. This makes me forever ineligible for public office. H.L Mencken

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