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    Re: U.S.: Putin's Peace Proposal for Ukraine is Nothing But 'Occupation Plan'

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    Remember, that's your opinion, but it's not the only opinion.
    No that is a fact.
    Putin had no right even under any of your imaginary scenarios to secretly invade and annex part of Ukraine.
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    Re: U.S.: Putin's Peace Proposal for Ukraine is Nothing But 'Occupation Plan'

    Quote Originally Posted by Quag View Post
    No that is a fact.
    Putin had no right even under any of your imaginary scenarios to secretly invade and annex part of Ukraine.
    Lol, oh you poor dear.
    Killing one person is murder, killing 100,000 is foreign policy

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    Re: U.S.: Putin's Peace Proposal for Ukraine is Nothing But 'Occupation Plan'

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    Lol, oh you poor dear.
    I`m not the one making nonsensical arguments based on crazy conspiracy theories.
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    Re: U.S.: Putin's Peace Proposal for Ukraine is Nothing But 'Occupation Plan'

    Quote Originally Posted by flogger View Post
    No more opinions just facts please ?

    Please show any evidence of this US intrusion in Ukraine
    One of many pieces of evidence is here at # 369 =

    Or see here = John J. Mearsheimer | How the West Caused the Ukraine Crisis | Foreign Affairs

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    Quote Originally Posted by LowDown View Post
    For one thing, the US isn't threatening to take their territory.
    That is being disingenuous as a play on words.

    The USA wants to control the Ukraine, so control is not exactly taking the Country.
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    Re: U.S.: Putin's Peace Proposal for Ukraine is Nothing But 'Occupation Plan'

    Quote Originally Posted by Quag View Post
    I`m not the one making nonsensical arguments based on crazy conspiracy theories.
    I've heard your opinion enough, and I'm truly empathetic that Putin's high ground in this is rubbing you a rash.
    Killing one person is murder, killing 100,000 is foreign policy

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    Re: U.S.: Putin's Peace Proposal for Ukraine is Nothing But 'Occupation Plan'

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    I've heard your opinion enough, and I'm truly empathetic that Putin's high ground in this is rubbing you a rash.
    I havent expressed an opinion I have expressed facts and asked you to give a valid reason why you think Putin can secretly invade and annex part of another country, you have yet to give a logical response.
    As to the high ground the guy invading and annexing lands from his neighbor is no where near it.
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    Re: U.S.: Putin's Peace Proposal for Ukraine is Nothing But 'Occupation Plan'

    Quote Originally Posted by JP Cusick View Post
    One of many pieces of evidence is here at # 369 =

    Or see here = John J. Mearsheimer | How the West Caused the Ukraine Crisis | Foreign Affairs

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    That is being disingenuous as a play on words.

    The USA wants to control the Ukraine, so control is not exactly taking the Country.
    These arm chair politicians have a better understanding then the senior fellow at the CFR. They're not going to have it. They are however going to continue to spit and sputter over Putin's response to the West in Ukraine, because, it's obvious, this should have been anticipated, and the WH failed to properly read the Russian mood on NATO expansion. Oh, and one more thing, they deny that it even was an attempt at NATO expansion.
    Killing one person is murder, killing 100,000 is foreign policy

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    Re: U.S.: Putin's Peace Proposal for Ukraine is Nothing But 'Occupation Plan'

    Quote Originally Posted by Quag View Post
    I havent expressed an opinion I have expressed facts and asked you to give a valid reason why you think Putin can secretly invade and annex part of another country, you have yet to give a logical response.
    As to the high ground the guy invading and annexing lands from his neighbor is no where near it.
    I've articulated it ad nauseam, you just fancy your opinion to it, so no, no more repetition. I'll leave you with your consternation and bewilderment at the brazenness of Putin to look after his countries interests.
    Killing one person is murder, killing 100,000 is foreign policy

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    Re: U.S.: Putin's Peace Proposal for Ukraine is Nothing But 'Occupation Plan'

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    I've articulated it ad nauseam, you just fancy your opinion to it, so no, no more repetition. I'll leave you with your consternation and bewilderment at the brazenness of Putin to look after his countries interests.
    Basically your 2 main points are:
    1) What is Putin percieves as right is right.
    2) The USA does bad things too.
    Sorry neither of those are even remotely decent arguments.
    Then you add some tin foil hat conspiracy BS that ignores reality and still doesnt provide a reason why Putin had the right to Invade and Annex part of the Ukraine.
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    Re: U.S.: Putin's Peace Proposal for Ukraine is Nothing But 'Occupation Plan'

    Quote Originally Posted by JP Cusick View Post
    One of many pieces of evidence is here at # 369 =

    Or see here = John J. Mearsheimer | How the West Caused the Ukraine Crisis | Foreign Affairs
    You've posted this opinion piece half a dozen times now and it has been rebutted multiple times with each repetition. Does linking it twice in the one post mean its got any more significance this time ?

    Which part of 'post evidence and not opinion' was in any way unclear for you ?

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