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    Re: U.S.: Putin's Peace Proposal for Ukraine is Nothing But 'Occupation Plan'

    Quote Originally Posted by Simpleχity View Post
    A "vested interest" does not include any right to invade, annex, and destabilize a sovereign state.
    What? US is known to do this (minus annex part). Be it in Iran, South America, Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya, Syria and so on. So shhhhhhhh, you are being pretty hackish in responses.
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    Re: U.S.: Putin's Peace Proposal for Ukraine is Nothing But 'Occupation Plan' [W:479]

    Quote Originally Posted by face, your View Post
    Conspiratorial nonsense. Provide a quote from Crowley where he states in what capacity Erkko ever worked on behalf of the CIA. The "Crowley List" is nonsense.

    Evaluation of the Crowley List of "CIA Sources"

    Regardless the man's dead.
    LOL. A list is a list. Crowely gave the last to others to be release upon his death. From Daniel Brandt and your like... some half-dozen are either Trilateral Commission members, or Bilderberg participants, or both. You know who's on both and the Crowely list? Aatos Errko.

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    Re: U.S.: Putin's Peace Proposal for Ukraine is Nothing But 'Occupation Plan'

    Quote Originally Posted by flogger View Post
    If that is really the case I'd take your complaint up with Interpol then

    You mean the political Interpol which is required by law to add names by request of new governments despite evidence?
    The fascist in Ukraine bitched for the last 8 months over it and US, UK and EU backed Ukraine claim.. color me NOT surprised. It's still political just as it was in the Balkans.
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    Re: U.S.: Putin's Peace Proposal for Ukraine is Nothing But 'Occupation Plan'

    Quote Originally Posted by austrianecon View Post

    You mean the political Interpol which is required by law to add names by request of new governments despite evidence?
    The fascist in Ukraine bitched for the last 8 months over it and US, UK and EU backed Ukraine claim.. color me NOT surprised. It's still political just as it was in the Balkans.
    Like I said . Take it up with interpol who reconfirmed his wanted status just last month. I suspect these may be some of their reasons

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    Re: U.S.: Putin's Peace Proposal for Ukraine is Nothing But 'Occupation Plan'

    Quote Originally Posted by austrianecon View Post
    What? US is known to do this (minus annex part). Be it in Iran, South America, Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya, Syria and so on. So shhhhhhhh, you are being pretty hackish in responses.
    And I haven't supported any of those adventures ... on the same grounds that I do here. It is morally, ethically, and legally wrong. You just can't seem to comprehend that. No matter what anyone else has done, it does not exculpate Russia in regards to Crimea and Ukraine. It's not a difficult concept ... the same international rules apply equally to everyone.


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    Re: U.S.: Putin's Peace Proposal for Ukraine is Nothing But 'Occupation Plan'

    Quote Originally Posted by austrianecon View Post
    National Security. Russia's Black Sea fleet sits in Crimea. It's kinda funny you even ask that.. because it's pretty simple. But I doubt you knew that US Navy in 2013 was trying to "butter" up the those living in Crimea. Another point of view.
    By that twisted logic the USA has every right to invade and annex Cuba because of Guantanamo.
    Seriously what right does Putin have to invade and annex part of another country and stop trying to pretend he didn't do that because even he admits he did.
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    Re: U.S.: Putin's Peace Proposal for Ukraine is Nothing But 'Occupation Plan'

    Quote Originally Posted by austrianecon View Post
    What? US is known to do this (minus annex part). Be it in Iran, South America, Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya, Syria and so on. So shhhhhhhh, you are being pretty hackish in responses.
    So if the US does something wrong then its OK for Putin to do so?
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    Re: U.S.: Putin's Peace Proposal for Ukraine is Nothing But 'Occupation Plan'

    Quote Originally Posted by austrianecon View Post
    What? US is known to do this (minus annex part). Be it in Iran, South America, Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya, Syria and so on. So shhhhhhhh, you are being pretty hackish in responses.
    There's no end to the documentation of this, and as such, I don't understand its continual denial.
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    Re: U.S.: Putin's Peace Proposal for Ukraine is Nothing But 'Occupation Plan'

    Quote Originally Posted by Simpleχity View Post
    And I haven't supported any of those adventures ... on the same grounds that I do here. It is morally, ethically, and legally wrong. You just can't seem to comprehend that. No matter what anyone else has done, it does not exculpate Russia in regards to Crimea and Ukraine. It's not a difficult concept ... the same international rules apply equally to everyone.
    I am glad to hear that you recognise the illegality of US adventurism in those places!
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    Re: U.S.: Putin's Peace Proposal for Ukraine is Nothing But 'Occupation Plan'

    Quote Originally Posted by Quag View Post
    By that twisted logic the USA has every right to invade and annex Cuba because of Guantanamo.
    Seriously what right does Putin have to invade and annex part of another country and stop trying to pretend he didn't do that because even he admits he did.
    It was quite logical for Putin to be concerned that Sevastopol was insecure and subject to NATO annexation. He unquestionably made the right move there. Loosing their warm water port, is simply no option for Russia.
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