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    Re: U.S.: Putin's Peace Proposal for Ukraine is Nothing But 'Occupation Plan'

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    No I don't because I'm smarter than you, comrade.


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    As a result of the July 2013 Proton M launch, a major reorganization of the Russian space industry was undertaken. The United Rocket and Space Corporation was formed as a joint-stock corporation by the government in August 2013 to consolidate the Russian space sector. Deputy Prime Minister Dmitry Rogozin said "the failure-prone space sector is so troubled that it needs state supervision to overcome its problems."[12] Three days following the failure, the Russian government had announced that "extremely harsh measures" would be taken "and spell the end of the [Russian] space industry as we know it."[13]



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    Russian rockets are garbage.
    You're not smarter than your pet newt. Ask your newt about Russian Rocket engines.
    Maybe they'll teach you more next year in third grade.

    US Too Dependent on Russian Rocket Engines, Experts Tell Lawmakers
    "Should the Russian government yank its supply of rocket engines for United States launches, critical national-security satellite missions could be delayed up to four years, experts told a joint Senate hearing Wednesday (July 16).
    United Launch Alliance's (ULA) Atlas 5 rocket is the workhorse of heavy satellite launches in the United States, but the booster requires a Russian RD-180 engine to get off the ground.
    Recent geopolitical disputes between Russia and the United States have thrown this arrangement, which has been in place for decades, into turmoil. In Twitter remarks in May, Russian Deputy Prime Minister Dmitry Rogozin threatened to ban all sales of RD-180 engines to the United States intended for use in military launches."

    U.S. military, national security agencies vexed by dependence on Russian rocket engines - The Washington Post
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    American spy satellites and classified military spacecraft are routinely launched into orbit with help from Russian rocket engines developed in the Soviet era. That is no secret to anyone in the world of national security space launches.
    The big question is whether this intimate technological relationship can continue given the political fallout from Russiaís actions in Ukraine. Already, a top Kremlin official has threatened to ban the export to the United States of powerful RD-180 engines unless Russia is guaranteed that they wonít be used by the U.S. military.
    U.S. military officials and space-industry experts say itís high time the United States had an industrial base that produced rocket engines that can do what the Russian engines do. Congress is in the process of authorizing money for such an effort. In theory, itís a no-brainer: Why rely on Russians for such an integral ­element of the U.S. national security program?
    But everything is highly inertial in the world of rocket science. The creation of powerful rocket engines in the United States could take several years at least. If the supply of Russian engines were cut off in the meantime, the U.S. launch program would face delays, with attendant costs to taxpayers of billions of dollars, according to a recent U.S. Air Force study"

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    Re: U.S.: Putin's Peace Proposal for Ukraine is Nothing But 'Occupation Plan'

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    No I call a website that only ****tards take seriously, you're not a ****tard are you? Anywho I provided the map for context; dear leader's fascist regime is far below the US regarding press freedom.



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    Lol. Have you EVER penned a post without mentioning the CIA, banks, or corporations?


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    Re: U.S.: Putin's Peace Proposal for Ukraine is Nothing But 'Occupation Plan'

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    Lol. Have you EVER penned a post without mentioning the CIA, banks, or corporations?
    They're heavy hitters in USFP, why shouldn't they be mentioned.
    Killing one person is murder, killing 100,000 is foreign policy

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    Re: U.S.: Putin's Peace Proposal for Ukraine is Nothing But 'Occupation Plan'

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    They're heavy hitters in USFP, why shouldn't they be mentioned.
    Perhaps because they have nothing to do with the topic maybe ?

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    Re: U.S.: Putin's Peace Proposal for Ukraine is Nothing But 'Occupation Plan'

    Quote Originally Posted by Henry David View Post
    The Russians accepted an independent Ukraine COMBINED WITH an empty verbal promise from the US that it would remain independent and not become a satellite of NATO.

    I'm sure the Russians are kicking themselves in the arse for having believed the US government. They have now learned the lessons the Native American Tribes all learned in previous centuries--the US government goes back on its word as a matter of routine.
    The point conveniently overlooked by those patronising of Western powers.
    Killing one person is murder, killing 100,000 is foreign policy

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    Re: U.S.: Putin's Peace Proposal for Ukraine is Nothing But 'Occupation Plan'

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    The point conveniently overlooked by those patronising of Western powers.
    And a point missed by anti western xenophobes is that these small Eastern European nations have their own very valid reasons for asking to join NATO as events in Ukraine have so graphically illustrated.

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    Re: U.S.: Putin's Peace Proposal for Ukraine is Nothing But 'Occupation Plan' [W:479]

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    The Moscow Times | U.S.: Putin's Peace Proposal for Ukraine is Nothing But 'Occupation Plan'



    Indeed. The rebels and Russia signed a document (The Minsk Agreement) which called for a ceasefire and a freeze on troop movements beginning at 1600 GMT on 5 September 2014. It was signed by rebel leaders Aleksandr Zakharchenko and Ihor Plotnytskiy and the Russian Ambassador to Ukraine Mikhail Zurabov. Russia also agreed in Minsk to pull all forces and equipment out of Ukraine. Toilet paper promises.

    Within the past two weeks, rebel forces supplied by and in tandem with Russian forces have launched a major offensive and have captured the Donetsk International Airport and ~500 sq. miles of additional territory. They have attacked on a curved arc beginning at Volnovakha in the southeast, north to Pisky, and east to Stanytsk-Luhanska. These forces now control 7% of Ukraine territory (besides Crimea) and 20% of the population.


    Rebel armored vehicles (supplied by Russia) move towards Slovyanoserbsk in eastern Ukraine on Wednesday 21 January 2015. (Boston Herald)
    Wow, free press in the heart of Russia, doesn't that beat all, lol.
    Killing one person is murder, killing 100,000 is foreign policy

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    Re: U.S.: Putin's Peace Proposal for Ukraine is Nothing But 'Occupation Plan'

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    You're not smarter than your pet newt. Ask your newt about Russian Rocket engines.
    Maybe they'll teach you more next year in third grade.

    US Too Dependent on Russian Rocket Engines, Experts Tell Lawmakers
    "Should the Russian government yank its supply of rocket engines for United States launches, critical national-security satellite missions could be delayed up to four years, experts told a joint Senate hearing Wednesday (July 16).
    United Launch Alliance's (ULA) Atlas 5 rocket is the workhorse of heavy satellite launches in the United States, but the booster requires a Russian RD-180 engine to get off the ground.
    Recent geopolitical disputes between Russia and the United States have thrown this arrangement, which has been in place for decades, into turmoil. In Twitter remarks in May, Russian Deputy Prime Minister Dmitry Rogozin threatened to ban all sales of RD-180 engines to the United States intended for use in military launches."

    U.S. military, national security agencies vexed by dependence on Russian rocket engines - The Washington Post
    "
    American spy satellites and classified military spacecraft are routinely launched into orbit with help from Russian rocket engines developed in the Soviet era. That is no secret to anyone in the world of national security space launches.
    The big question is whether this intimate technological relationship can continue given the political fallout from Russia’s actions in Ukraine. Already, a top Kremlin official has threatened to ban the export to the United States of powerful RD-180 engines unless Russia is guaranteed that they won’t be used by the U.S. military.
    U.S. military officials and space-industry experts say it’s high time the United States had an industrial base that produced rocket engines that can do what the Russian engines do. Congress is in the process of authorizing money for such an effort. In theory, it’s a no-brainer: Why rely on Russians for such an integral *element of the U.S. national security program?
    But everything is highly inertial in the world of rocket science. The creation of powerful rocket engines in the United States could take several years at least. If the supply of Russian engines were cut off in the meantime, the U.S. launch program would face delays, with attendant costs to taxpayers of billions of dollars, according to a recent U.S. Air Force study"
    You said we used Russian rockets you did not say we use Russian first stage engines we do not use Russian rockets because they are garbage.

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    Re: U.S.: Putin's Peace Proposal for Ukraine is Nothing But 'Occupation Plan' [W:479]

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    Wow, free press in the heart of Russia, doesn't that beat all, lol.
    The Moscow Times is not a Russian publication it is a foreign owned English Language tabloid for westerners living in Russia and is not available at news stands.

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