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    Re: U.S.: Putin's Peace Proposal for Ukraine is Nothing But 'Occupation Plan'

    Quote Originally Posted by face, your View Post
    We should have listened to Patton and followed a trail of nukes to capture Moscow through winter
    You do realize that Russia has thousands of Nukes and it is Russian rockets that put many US satellites and supplies and
    astronauts in space, or perhaps you don't realize that. They also have Nuke subs, boomers, attack, etc. Satellite surveillance
    worldwide, their own GPS and they lost 20 million soldiers defeating Germany in WWII. It doesn't have the debt load of the USA.
    Putin has a support rate exceeding 80% wihtin Russia. Russia doesn't want to be trapped in a Central Banking system run by
    the Federal Reserve and crooked bankers. The bigger the bank, the bigger the crook. The Western Central banking system
    wants Ukraine as nobody in the USA was asked if they wanted Ukraine resources, well except maybe Hunter Biden.

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    Re: U.S.: Putin's Peace Proposal for Ukraine is Nothing But 'Occupation Plan'

    Russia is a one-trick-pony state. You can't buy much prosperity with a devalued petro-currency that nobody else wants.


    Be polite, be professional, but have a plan to kill everybody you meet. -- Marine Corps General James 'Chaos' Mattis

    Repeal and Replace Trump.

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    Re: U.S.: Putin's Peace Proposal for Ukraine is Nothing But 'Occupation Plan'

    Quote Originally Posted by Simpleχity View Post
    I do. It seems that you don't. Or it could be just poor form on your part.
    In eighteen months I've posted links to that story a dozen times. You don't care what the SoS had to say about international media anyway.
    Killing one person is murder, killing 100,000 is foreign policy

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    Re: U.S.: Putin's Peace Proposal for Ukraine is Nothing But 'Occupation Plan'

    Quote Originally Posted by face, your View Post
    When I provide undeniable statistics regarding the majority populations in Eastern Ukraine and you scream "western propaganda" it's clear where you belong. But I guess you're right facts do have a decidedly western bias.
    Sorry, don't know how young you are, but if you think facts are indigenous to the West, you're naive.
    Killing one person is murder, killing 100,000 is foreign policy

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    Re: U.S.: Putin's Peace Proposal for Ukraine is Nothing But 'Occupation Plan'

    Quote Originally Posted by face, your View Post
    So no valid rebuttal to speak of. Touche.
    Actually, I didn't see a rebuttal from you on Mrs. Clinton's testimony, only a dismissal, btw, you really are juvenile.
    Killing one person is murder, killing 100,000 is foreign policy

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    Re: U.S.: Putin's Peace Proposal for Ukraine is Nothing But 'Occupation Plan' [W:479]

    Quote Originally Posted by Sietske22 View Post
    So you're doubting all of the evidence I provided?

    all of the videos, all of the articles, all of the OSCE reports?

    Looks like Stalinist paranoia and denial is alive and well.

    Next you'll tell us the Holodomor didn't happen, the Katyn Massacre didn't happen, and Cuba had no Soviet nukes.
    Just as you deny the long list of CIA atrocities in Latin America, or the abuse of UN R-1973 to conduct regime change in Libya. Or justify the use of nuclear weapons on wholly civilian targets. You know, it's not that Russia hasn't been guilty of its share of atrocity, it's that patronising Americans justify all US atrocity while condemning others. Sick you know.
    Killing one person is murder, killing 100,000 is foreign policy

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    Re: U.S.: Putin's Peace Proposal for Ukraine is Nothing But 'Occupation Plan' [W:479]

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    Just as you deny the long list of CIA atrocities in Latin America, or the abuse of UN R-1973 to conduct regime change in Libya.
    What the **** are you talking about and who the **** do you think you're talking to?

    Is it normal for you to make up fake arguments by your dissenters? I have never argued such things nor believe such things.

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    Re: U.S.: Putin's Peace Proposal for Ukraine is Nothing But 'Occupation Plan' [W:479]

    Quote Originally Posted by Sietske22 View Post
    What the **** are you talking about and who the **** do you think you're talking to?

    Is it normal for you to make up fake arguments by your dissenters? I have never argued such things nor believe such things.
    Who the **** am I talking to??
    Killing one person is murder, killing 100,000 is foreign policy

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    Re: U.S.: Putin's Peace Proposal for Ukraine is Nothing But 'Occupation Plan'

    Quote Originally Posted by DaveFagan View Post
    You do realize that Russia has thousands of Nukes and it is Russian rockets that put many US satellites and supplies and
    astronauts in space, or perhaps you don't realize that.
    No I don't because I'm smarter than you, comrade.


    Proton-M in assembly building awaiting for rollout

    As of May 2014, nine Proton-M launches have failed. Three of these failures were the results of problems with the Proton-M itself, five were caused by the Briz-M upper stage malfunctioning and leaving cargo in a useless orbit, and one was the result of a Blok DM-03 upper stage being incorrectly fuelled, leaving the Proton too heavy to achieve orbit.

    In September 2007, a Proton-M/Briz-M rocket carrying Japan's JCSAT-11 communications satellite failed to achieve orbit, and fell in the Ulytau District of Kazakhstan. An investigation determined that first and second stages of the rocket had failed to separate, due to a damaged pyrotechnic cable.[7]

    In July 2013, a Proton-M/DM-03 carrying three GLONASS satellites failed shortly after liftoff.[8] The booster began pitching left and right along the vertical axis within a few seconds of launch. Attempts by the onboard guidance computer to correct the flight trajectory failed and ended up putting it into an unrecoverable pitchover. The upper stages and payload were stripped off 24 seconds after launch due to the forces experienced followed by the first stage breaking apart and erupting in flames. Impact with the ground occurred 30 seconds after liftoff.

    The preliminary report of the investigation indicated that three of the first stage angular velocity sensors, responsible for yaw control, were installed in an incorrect orientation. As the error affected the redundant sensors as well as the primary ones, the rocket was left with no yaw control, which resulted in the failure.[9] Telemetry data also indicated that a pad umbilical had detached prematurely, suggesting that the Proton may have launched several tenths of a second early, before the engines reached full thrust.

    In May 2014, another Proton-M launch ended in failure, resulting in the loss of an Ekspress telecommunications satellite. Unlike the 2013 disaster, this occurred more than nine minutes into the flight when one of the third stage verniers shut off, causing loss of attitude control. An automatic shutdown and destruct command was issued and the remains of the upper stages and payload landed in northern China. An investigation committee concluded that the failure was most likely due to one of the turbopumps breaking off its mount , rupturing a propellant line and causing the vernier to lose thrust.

    Although other Proton-M launches are recorded as failures, these failures have been caused by the upper stages used to allow the rocket to deliver payloads to higher orbits. On 5 December 2010, the upper stage and payloads failed to reach orbital velocity due to overloading of the upper stage with 1.5 tonnes of liquid oxygen, resulting in the loss of three GLONASS satellites it was carrying.[10]

    Five launches have succumbed to problems with the Briz-M upper stage; Arabsat 4A in February 2006, AMC-14 in March 2008, Ekspress-AM4 in August 2011, Telkom 3 and Ekspress-MD2 in August 2012[11] and Yamal 402 in December 2012. All of the payloads were unusable except for Yamal 402, which was able to correct its orbit at the expense of several years' operational life, and AMC-14 which was sold to the US Government after SES determined that it couldn't complete its original mission.
    Effect on government and industry

    As a result of the July 2013 Proton M launch, a major reorganization of the Russian space industry was undertaken. The United Rocket and Space Corporation was formed as a joint-stock corporation by the government in August 2013 to consolidate the Russian space sector. Deputy Prime Minister Dmitry Rogozin said "the failure-prone space sector is so troubled that it needs state supervision to overcome its problems."[12] Three days following the failure, the Russian government had announced that "extremely harsh measures" would be taken "and spell the end of the [Russian] space industry as we know it."[13]



    Proton-M - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    Russian rockets are garbage.

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    Re: U.S.: Putin's Peace Proposal for Ukraine is Nothing But 'Occupation Plan'

    Quote Originally Posted by DaveFagan View Post
    When a person is caught with their pants down, they always claim CT, Conspiracy Theory because they don't think they have to provide any real proof.
    No I call a website that only ****tards take seriously, you're not a ****tard are you? Anywho I provided the map for context; dear leader's fascist regime is far below the US regarding press freedom.

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    I'll be sure to get my infor from Canada, Germany, Finland, Norway, Sweden and New Zealand for it to be good. Glad you updated me on that/
    You're sure you don't want to echo anymore talking points from the Kremlin's ministry of propaganda? Because a quick perusal of your posts shows that's all you ever do.

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