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    Re: U.S.: Putin's Peace Proposal for Ukraine is Nothing But 'Occupation Plan' [W:479]

    If you had read the text of the BI photo, you would know that the photo with the patch was added. There were no known photos of fighters with the patch at Donetsk.

    "High quality global journalism requires investment. Please share this article with others using the link below, do not cut & paste the article. See our Ts&Cs and Copyright Policy for more detail. Email ftsales.support@ft.com to buy additional rights. Café encounter exposes reality of Russian soldiers in Ukraine - FT.com
    "Fighters from Russia’s restive Chechnya and North Ossetia regions have been playing a visible role on the ground in Donetsk since May, when they first began talking to reporters, including from the Financial Times. While the majority of the men manning the Donetsk and Lugansk rebel-controlled checkpoints are local – as are many of the men taking part in the fighting – there is ample evidence that mercenaries are also present on the ground. Some of them appeared to have been staying at the $100-a-night Donetsk Ramada, one of the few Donetsk hotels that has stayed open throughout the fighting."
    The preceding quote seems to be the relevant one from the FT article. So there are mercenaries fighting for the rebels, just like the CIA financed mercenaries fighting for Kiev. This is no surprise.

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    Re: U.S.: Putin's Peace Proposal for Ukraine is Nothing But 'Occupation Plan' [W:479]

    Quote Originally Posted by DaveFagan View Post
    If you had read the text of the BI photo, you would know that the photo with the patch was added. There were no known photos of fighters with the patch at Donetsk.

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    "Fighters from Russia’s restive Chechnya and North Ossetia regions have been playing a visible role on the ground in Donetsk since May, when they first began talking to reporters, including from the Financial Times. While the majority of the men manning the Donetsk and Lugansk rebel-controlled checkpoints are local – as are many of the men taking part in the fighting – there is ample evidence that mercenaries are also present on the ground. Some of them appeared to have been staying at the $100-a-night Donetsk Ramada, one of the few Donetsk hotels that has stayed open throughout the fighting."
    The preceding quote seems to be the relevant one from the FT article. So there are mercenaries fighting for the rebels, just like the CIA financed mercenaries fighting for Kiev. This is no surprise.
    who photoshopped the Russian Marine patchinto the video?

    Russian tv is trying to implicate their own people?

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    Re: U.S.: Putin's Peace Proposal for Ukraine is Nothing But 'Occupation Plan' [W:479]

    Quote Originally Posted by Sietske22 View Post
    who photoshopped the Russian Marine patchinto the video?

    Russian tv is trying to implicate their own people?
    Yeh. The Russian media has a lot less perception management because they do not have
    massive CIA black budgets to work with. Why don't you show CIA mercenaries and Russian
    mercenaries? Both sides of the equation, don't ya' know?

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    Re: U.S.: Putin's Peace Proposal for Ukraine is Nothing But 'Occupation Plan' [W:479]

    Quote Originally Posted by DaveFagan View Post
    Yeh. The Russian media has a lot less perception management because they do not have
    massive CIA black budgets to work with. Why don't you show CIA mercenaries and Russian
    mercenaries? Both sides of the equation, don't ya' know?
    So you're doubting all of the evidence I provided?

    all of the videos, all of the articles, all of the OSCE reports?

    Looks like Stalinist paranoia and denial is alive and well.

    Next you'll tell us the Holodomor didn't happen, the Katyn Massacre didn't happen, and Cuba had no Soviet nukes.

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    Re: U.S.: Putin's Peace Proposal for Ukraine is Nothing But 'Occupation Plan'

    Quote Originally Posted by JP Cusick View Post
    As already said = "If you do not respect the opinions of others then the defect is in your self and not in our evidence."
    No the actuaul facts consolidated by the verifiable evidence are my only foundation

    You are following the unwholesome example of our idiotic leaders
    I don't care about our leaders

    I see this pompous pretentious perspective as the same problem with the USA acting as if we do not respect the opinions of Russia, as if our American belligerence is the FACTS and everything from Russia are not respected as being just their opinions, as if we were going to just prance into the Ukraine with our opinionated FACTS which has not turned out as the reality.
    Your subjectivity doesn't matter the facts do

    As such Russia has annexed the Crimea as one of their "opinions", and Russia rules over the western Ukraine as another one of their opinions, and they demonstrated to the USA and to Britain that they Russia can attack and can turn us into nuclear ash and rubble as another one of their opinions, while the USA is still being belligerent and arrogant by viewing our demands as being the FACTS as we do not respect the opinions of Russia.
    No thats your interpretation of such events. It bears little resemblance to reality

    As such the USA is acting as a land of fools, and it is our disrespect of others which makes our own opinions as worthless and immature
    The USA has nothing whatsoever to do with current events in Ukraine as your manifest inability to establish any evidence for that (despite multiple requests) bears witness

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    Re: U.S.: Putin's Peace Proposal for Ukraine is Nothing But 'Occupation Plan'

    Quote Originally Posted by DaveFagan View Post
    When a person is caught with their pants down, they always claim CT, Conspiracy Theory because they don't think they have to provide any real proof.
    I'll be sure to get my infor from Canada, Germany, Finland, Norway, Sweden and New Zealand for it to be good. Glad you updated me on that/
    We should have listened to Patton and followed a trail of nukes to capture Moscow through winter

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    Re: U.S.: Putin's Peace Proposal for Ukraine is Nothing But 'Occupation Plan'

    Quote Originally Posted by face, your View Post
    We should have listened to Patton and followed a trail of nukes to capture Moscow through winter
    Our boys have winter clothes

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