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    Re: U.S.: Putin's Peace Proposal for Ukraine is Nothing But 'Occupation Plan'

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    Having failed to listen to her, you don't know what she was talking about.
    No one with any sense of logic or intelligence believes that Russian media is "informative".

    Its simply a modern version of Soviet Pravda.

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    Re: U.S.: Putin's Peace Proposal for Ukraine is Nothing But 'Occupation Plan'

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    A bit dated article, you'd have noticed if you read, but then you don't care. Actually, you should watch, yes its available, the video of her testimony before congress on this subject. You might (should) be embarrassed about the American press.
    Maybe you should leave a link so there is no ambiguity.


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    Re: U.S.: Putin's Peace Proposal for Ukraine is Nothing But 'Occupation Plan'

    You don't have google.
    Killing one person is murder, killing 100,000 is foreign policy

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    Re: U.S.: Putin's Peace Proposal for Ukraine is Nothing But 'Occupation Plan'

    Quote Originally Posted by DaveFagan View Post
    U.S. Drops to 49th in World Press Freedom Ranking
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    Russia slipped to the 152nd spot after introducing "another string of draconian laws," website blocking and the extinction of independent media.
    Yup. Russian media is dependable.


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    Re: U.S.: Putin's Peace Proposal for Ukraine is Nothing But 'Occupation Plan'

    Quote Originally Posted by Simpleχity View Post
    Yup. Russian media is dependable.
    Ok, so US media is un dependable, and Russian media is less so. Ok we all feel better now.
    Killing one person is murder, killing 100,000 is foreign policy

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    Re: U.S.: Putin's Peace Proposal for Ukraine is Nothing But 'Occupation Plan'

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    You don't have google.
    I do. It seems that you don't. Or it could be just poor form on your part.


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    Re: U.S.: Putin's Peace Proposal for Ukraine is Nothing But 'Occupation Plan'

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    Ok, so US media is un dependable, and Russian media is less so. Ok we all feel better now.
    None of them are 100% dependable. But many - like Russia - are really really bad.


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    Re: U.S.: Putin's Peace Proposal for Ukraine is Nothing But 'Occupation Plan'

    Quote Originally Posted by Simpleχity View Post
    None of them are 100% dependable. But many - like Russia - are really really bad.
    The US seems to be ignoring the false photos of Russian military equipment being
    shown to US Congress to get them to finance more war in Ukraine. I think the lack
    of coverage and assessment of the egregious, heinous nature of the act reveals the
    veneer of misinformation being spread by USA MSM and CIA perception management.

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    Re: U.S.: Putin's Peace Proposal for Ukraine is Nothing But 'Occupation Plan'

    Quote Originally Posted by DaveFagan View Post
    The US seems to be ignoring the false photos of Russian military equipment being
    shown to US Congress to get them to finance more war in Ukraine. I think the lack
    of coverage and assessment of the egregious, heinous nature of the act reveals the
    veneer of misinformation being spread by USA MSM and CIA perception management.
    Speaking of photos lol. Your little Commie rants always remind me of this visual...



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    Re: U.S.: Putin's Peace Proposal for Ukraine is Nothing But 'Occupation Plan'

    Quote Originally Posted by flogger View Post
    Perhaps I should clarify that for you then. An opinion is a subjective interpretation a fact is not

    Facts are not opinions

    The difference being I use facts to qualify my opinion rather than using the subjective interpretation of somebody else's opinions to buttress petty bigotries

    No evidence is evidence and can be incontravertibly recognised as such. Opinion is subjective and therefore open to multiple interpretation

    I have at all times qualified my position using fact rather than opinion on this issue

    I respect verifiable fact over belief and opinion every time. It serves me well. You for example clearly believe the US is responsible for what has happened in Ukraine irrespective of the complete lack of facts or evidence that would support such a contention and based on any opinion that feeds your anti US xenophobia. I do not
    As already said = "If you do not respect the opinions of others then the defect is in your self and not in our evidence."

    You are following the unwholesome example of our idiotic leaders.

    I see this pompous pretentious perspective as the same problem with the USA acting as if we do not respect the opinions of Russia, as if our American belligerence is the FACTS and everything from Russia are not respected as being just their opinions, as if we were going to just prance into the Ukraine with our opinionated FACTS which has not turned out as the reality.

    As such Russia has annexed the Crimea as one of their "opinions", and Russia rules over the western Ukraine as another one of their opinions, and they demonstrated to the USA and to Britain that they Russia can attack and can turn us into nuclear ash and rubble as another one of their opinions, while the USA is still being belligerent and arrogant by viewing our demands as being the FACTS as we do not respect the opinions of Russia.

    As such the USA is acting as a land of fools, and it is our disrespect of others which makes our own opinions as worthless and immature.
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