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    Re: U.S.: Putin's Peace Proposal for Ukraine is Nothing But 'Occupation Plan'

    Quote Originally Posted by Quag View Post
    BS stop lying.
    Putin bribed coerced Yanukovych to refuse Euromaidan and insted try to seek closer ties to Russia. His own party ousted him and he fled to Russia.
    When Putin had failed to get Ukraine this way he invaided using tropps who had removed their insignia, denying it for weeks until he had full control.
    It had nothing to do with the US and everything to do with Putin.
    I dismissed your lies sometime ago, forgotten that??????
    Killing one person is murder, killing 100,000 is foreign policy

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    Re: U.S.: Putin's Peace Proposal for Ukraine is Nothing But 'Occupation Plan'

    Quote Originally Posted by flogger View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by JP Cusick
    So yes evidence and proof has been given for all here to see.
    Funny how nobody but you has seen it then ?
    Well it is NOT "funny" that you keep failing to see it since it is posted many places in this thread.

    Your refusal to acknowledge it does not change the reality that it has been given.

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    Re: U.S.: Putin's Peace Proposal for Ukraine is Nothing But 'Occupation Plan'

    Quote Originally Posted by JP Cusick View Post
    Well it is NOT "funny" that you keep failing to see it since it is posted many places in this thread.

    Your refusal to acknowledge it does not change the reality that it has been given.

    So you outright refuse to post this proof of US culpability for the Ukrainian conflict despite multiple requests ? Unlike you I can back up the claims I make, Its what you are supposed do when challenged to on a debating forum

    You should try it some time

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    Re: U.S.: Putin's Peace Proposal for Ukraine is Nothing But 'Occupation Plan'

    Quote Originally Posted by flogger View Post
    So you outright refuse to post this proof of US culpability for the Ukrainian conflict despite multiple requests ? Unlike you I can back up the claims I make, Its what you are supposed do when challenged to on a debating forum

    You should try it some time
    One of many #369 =

    No one has ever refused you [proof as you have been given evidence and proof repeatedly in this thread.
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    Re: U.S.: Putin's Peace Proposal for Ukraine is Nothing But 'Occupation Plan'

    Quote Originally Posted by JP Cusick View Post
    One of many #369 =

    No one has ever refused you [proof as you have been given evidence and proof repeatedly in this thread.
    Ho hum .... and # 376 again

    The Ukraine crisis according to John J. Mearsheimer: Impeccable Logic, Wrong Facts

    RealTime Economic Issues Watch | Is the West to Blame for Russia’s Aggression in Ukraine? Of Course Not!

    Why John J. Mearsheimer is Wrong on Ukraine | Duck of Minerva

    Department of "Huh?!" John J. Mearsheimer Thinks the West Caused the Ukraine Crisis?: The Honest Broker for the Week of September 19, 2014 - Washington Center for Equitable Growth

    Your deeply flawed subjective opinion piece is proof of nothing but the opinion of the individual who wrote it and was comprehensively rebutted above no less than four times by four seperate other individuals.

    You must have more than this straw left to repeatedly clutch at surely ?
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    Re: U.S.: Putin's Peace Proposal for Ukraine is Nothing But 'Occupation Plan'

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    I dismissed your lies sometime ago, forgotten that??????
    Lol the guy making stuff up as he goes along calls the truth lies.
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    Re: U.S.: Putin's Peace Proposal for Ukraine is Nothing But 'Occupation Plan'

    Quote Originally Posted by flogger View Post
    You must have more than this straw left to repeatedly clutch at surely ?
    The point is that you have been told, and so you have no business claiming that no one has told you.

    In fact there are 51 pages of people telling you, and it is in your face and eyes.

    Here you are being given a true and considerate opportunity to become enlightened, you have the option to become smarter and better informed, and it is offered to you free and clear as like on a silver platter (or silver screen).

    It is just keeping your self blind which is just so unnecessary.
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    Re: U.S.: Putin's Peace Proposal for Ukraine is Nothing But 'Occupation Plan'

    Quote Originally Posted by JP Cusick View Post
    The point is that you have been told, and so you have no business claiming that no one has told you.
    Since when did opinion represent evidence ?

    n fact there are 51 pages of people telling you, and it is in your face and eyes.
    Yet this oft debunked opinion piece is still all you can find amongst them

    Here you are being given a true and considerate opportunity to become enlightened, you have the option to become smarter and better informed, and it is offered to you free and clear as like on a silver platter (or silver screen).
    On the contrary I've linked more hard fact supporting my position than almost anyone else has here

    It is just keeping your self blind which is just so unnecessary.
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    Re: U.S.: Putin's Peace Proposal for Ukraine is Nothing But 'Occupation Plan'

    Quote Originally Posted by flogger View Post
    Since when did opinion represent evidence ?
    I have seen this said before and I really do not get the point.

    Everything is an opinion, as we are all humans and our opinions do count.

    President Obama gives his opinion and President Putin gives his opinion and they count.

    Unless you see your own opinions as facts while every other opinion is just an opinion, as if being an opinion degrades the truth which it does not.

    In a Court trial people give their testimony based on their belief and understanding and opinions and it is "evidence" and opinions have always been evidence and always will be.

    I figure that you are just trying to cop-out as if your own opinions are FACTS and then you can deny the truth given to you by others.

    If you do not respect the opinions of others then the defect is in your self and not in our evidence.
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    Re: U.S.: Putin's Peace Proposal for Ukraine is Nothing But 'Occupation Plan'

    Quote Originally Posted by JP Cusick View Post
    I have seen this said before and I really do not get the point.

    Everything is an opinion, as we are all humans and our opinions do count.

    President Obama gives his opinion and President Putin gives his opinion and they count.

    Unless you see your own opinions as facts while every other opinion is just an opinion, as if being an opinion degrades the truth which it does not.

    In a Court trial people give their testimony based on their belief and understanding and opinions and it is "evidence" and opinions have always been evidence and always will be.

    I figure that you are just trying to cop-out as if your own opinions are FACTS and then you can deny the truth given to you by others.

    If you do not respect the opinions of others then the defect is in your self and not in our evidence.
    Yes, floggers opinions are fact.
    Killing one person is murder, killing 100,000 is foreign policy

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