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    Re: U.S.: Putin's Peace Proposal for Ukraine is Nothing But 'Occupation Plan'

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    Chinese diplomat declares support for Russia's approach toward Ukraine problem
    Chinese diplomat declares support for Russia's approach toward Ukraine problem
    China supports Russia's illegal and murderous ways? Shocking.

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    Re: U.S.: Putin's Peace Proposal for Ukraine is Nothing But 'Occupation Plan'

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    Re: U.S.: Putin's Peace Proposal for Ukraine is Nothing But 'Occupation Plan'

    Quote Originally Posted by Roadvirus View Post
    China supports Russia's illegal and murderous ways? Shocking.
    What's shocking is that your blind to what you accuse Putin of when it happens in your own government. But then, that's The patronising American way. No, what's shocking is that it escapes you that the government of China could have better knowledge than you of what's gone down in Ukraine.
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    Re: U.S.: Putin's Peace Proposal for Ukraine is Nothing But 'Occupation Plan'

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    What's shocking is that your blind to what you accuse Putin of when it happens in your own government. But then, that's The patronising American way. No, what's shocking is that it escapes you that the government of China could have better knowledge than you of what's gone down in Ukraine.
    As you were shown earlier I seriously doubt that any US administration has ever been quite as sinister or corrupt as the one currently occupying the Kremlin

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    Re: U.S.: Putin's Peace Proposal for Ukraine is Nothing But 'Occupation Plan'

    Quote Originally Posted by flogger View Post
    As you were shown earlier I seriously doubt that any US administration has ever been quite as sinister or corrupt as the one currently occupying the Kremlin
    All I was shown was an opinion. On this issue (Ukraine) Putin isn't the evil you're painting.
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    Re: U.S.: Putin's Peace Proposal for Ukraine is Nothing But 'Occupation Plan'

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    All I was shown was an opinion. On this issue (Ukraine) Putin isn't the evil you're painting.
    No you were shown a long list of misdemeanours that have entirely undermined freedom and democracy in Russia. Putin is one of the most dangerous individuals in the world today. If we continue giving him a free hand to do in Ukraine what he has already done at home then we only have ourselves to blame.

    I see this as rather more than just another expedient world event that can somehow be bent in order to try and beat up on the US because of its earlier sins

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    Re: U.S.: Putin's Peace Proposal for Ukraine is Nothing But 'Occupation Plan'

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    Not pretending, saying!
    You are either willfully ignorant or just plain lying.
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    Re: U.S.: Putin's Peace Proposal for Ukraine is Nothing But 'Occupation Plan'

    Quote Originally Posted by Simpleχity View Post
    If you want to go back in history, Moscow is situated on land that was originally Ukrainian.

    Do you have anything... contemporary?
    And if we go a bit further back in (unwritten) history before political creations, neither Ukraine nor Russia existed. So what's the point?

    Might seems to make right in more contemporary history....

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    Re: U.S.: Putin's Peace Proposal for Ukraine is Nothing But 'Occupation Plan'

    Quote Originally Posted by Quag View Post
    You are either willfully ignorant or just plain lying.
    Actually, there's no excuse for ignorance, information flows to easily anymore for people to be oblivious to what's happening. On the issue of Ukraine, Putin is right and you will see the same reaction to any attempted expansion of NATO influence eastward. The rub is that patronising of the West as you are, it escapes you that it's not in Russia's interest to allow it, nor will they. So get over it and pay attention to more important things.
    Killing one person is murder, killing 100,000 is foreign policy

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    Re: U.S.: Putin's Peace Proposal for Ukraine is Nothing But 'Occupation Plan'

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    Actually, there's no excuse for ignorance, information flows to easily anymore for people to be oblivious to what's happening. On the issue of Ukraine, Putin is right and you will see the same reaction to any attempted expansion of NATO influence eastward. The rub is that patronising of the West as you are, it escapes you that it's not in Russia's interest to allow it, nor will they. So get over it and pay attention to more important things.
    So just lying.
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