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    Re: U.S.: Putin's Peace Proposal for Ukraine is Nothing But 'Occupation Plan'

    Quote Originally Posted by flogger View Post
    Heads up. There was a united Ukraine for 23 years until you guys decided that there shouldn't be anymore
    Heads up, the events unfolding today are evidence that that was somewhat of a facade, apparently there wasn't complete unity. Ask those happy smiling Crimean's shuffling about the streets and those fighting in the East for the same. You know, autonomy, self determination, the things you folk love to support elsewhere, well, except for Palestinians.
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    Killing one person is murder, killing 100,000 is foreign policy

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    Re: U.S.: Putin's Peace Proposal for Ukraine is Nothing But 'Occupation Plan'

    Quote Originally Posted by MrFirst View Post
    There was united Ukraine until Kiev government started bombardments of its of eastern cities.
    And of course Russian infiltration and agitation had nothing to do with that at all. They were just heavily armed 'vacationers' according to the Kremlin

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    Re: U.S.: Putin's Peace Proposal for Ukraine is Nothing But 'Occupation Plan'

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    Heads up, the events unfolding today are evidence that that was somewhat of a facade, apparently there wasn't complete unity. Ask those happy smiling Crimea's shuffling about the streets and those fighting in the East for the same. You know, autonomy, self determination, the things you folk love to support elsewhere, well, except for Palestinians.
    I've been all over the Ukraine my friend (even the east) and the great bulk of people there regarded their national sovereignty and right to self determination as rather more than just some 'facade'.

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    Re: U.S.: Putin's Peace Proposal for Ukraine is Nothing But 'Occupation Plan'

    Quote Originally Posted by flogger View Post
    And of course Russian infiltration and agitation had nothing to do with that at all. They were just heavily armed 'vacationers' according to the Kremlin
    Nobody forced Ukrainian troops to shoot at people in Donbass.

    Everybody saw how it started - unarmed people first tryed to stop Ukrainian tanks with only their own bodies and with words.






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    Re: U.S.: Putin's Peace Proposal for Ukraine is Nothing But 'Occupation Plan'

    Quote Originally Posted by flogger View Post
    I've been all over the Ukraine my friend (even the east) and the great bulk of people there regarded their national sovereignty and right to self determination as rather more than just some 'facade'.
    Wtf!! I said that the notion that there was complete unity, was OBVIOUSLY somewhat of a facade, as EVIDENCED by the FACT that the folk strolling along the streets in Crimea are happy, smiling people. And there are folk in the East fighting for the same, autonomy, self determination, hear?
    Killing one person is murder, killing 100,000 is foreign policy

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    Re: U.S.: Putin's Peace Proposal for Ukraine is Nothing But 'Occupation Plan'

    Quote Originally Posted by flogger View Post
    And of course Russian infiltration and agitation had nothing to do with that at all. They were just heavily armed 'vacationers' according to the Kremlin
    Why are you selective about self determination?
    Killing one person is murder, killing 100,000 is foreign policy

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    Re: U.S.: Putin's Peace Proposal for Ukraine is Nothing But 'Occupation Plan'

    Quote Originally Posted by MrFirst View Post
    Nobody forced Ukrainian troops to shoot at people in Donbass.
    Well nobody except the Russians that is

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    Re: U.S.: Putin's Peace Proposal for Ukraine is Nothing But 'Occupation Plan'

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    Why are you selective about self determination?
    I'm not. The 38% of ethnic Russians living in the Eastern provinces were fine about it until the Russians decided they shouldn't be anymore

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    Re: U.S.: Putin's Peace Proposal for Ukraine is Nothing But 'Occupation Plan'

    Quote Originally Posted by flogger View Post
    Well nobody except the Russians that is
    Russians also made Ukro-nazis to burn people alive in Odessa, also to kill 100 people in Kiev, also to bomb Lugansk regional government on July 2 last year, and also Russians forced Ukrainian troops to commit many war crimes like shelling cities with cluster bombs and rockets, killing kids, oldmen, women...

    I understand this is funny for you. But not for me.

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    Re: U.S.: Putin's Peace Proposal for Ukraine is Nothing But 'Occupation Plan'

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    Right, every time ten Western nations get together and make a declaration, it's international in its authority, because we all know that when they pull their pants on in the morning, the whole worlds dressed.
    Yes because the UNSC and the UNGA are "10 western countries" your arguments and apologetics for a fascist dictator are both laughable and disgusting.

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