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    Re: U.S.: Putin's Peace Proposal for Ukraine is Nothing But 'Occupation Plan'

    Quote Originally Posted by austrianecon View Post
    Dude your history is not even correct. Rurik Dynasty ruled the area.
    Dude, I suggest you look up the Kievan Rus Empire.


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    Re: U.S.: Putin's Peace Proposal for Ukraine is Nothing But 'Occupation Plan'

    Anti-war rally near army office in Zaporozhye. With English subs.



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    Re: U.S.: Putin's Peace Proposal for Ukraine is Nothing But 'Occupation Plan'

    Quote Originally Posted by MrFirst View Post
    Anti-war rally near army office in Zaporozhye. With English subs.



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    I'm sorry, but the English subtitles aren't coming through for me.
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    Re: U.S.: Putin's Peace Proposal for Ukraine is Nothing But 'Occupation Plan'

    Quote Originally Posted by flogger View Post
    So basically just another religious nut then. Thanks for stopping by and good luck with that approach with the Russians
    I am not trying to impose anything onto Russia, and you (and the USA) are making a big mistake in trying to impose anything onto Russia.

    We the USA are the ones trying to impose our self where we have no right and no business - as in the Ukraine.

    And if I am the "religious nut" who is trying to tell Americans to make peace - then what does that make you?

    Answer = It makes you into a warmonger, and we all would be much better off if all you warmongers would grow some morality and proper restraint.
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    Re: U.S.: Putin's Peace Proposal for Ukraine is Nothing But 'Occupation Plan'

    Quote Originally Posted by JP Cusick View Post
    I am not trying to impose anything onto Russia, and you (and the USA) are making a big mistake in trying to impose anything onto Russia.
    What is it we are supposed to be imposing on Russia then ?

    We the USA are the ones trying to impose our self where we have no right and no business - as in the Ukraine.
    Its not the US who's troops is it are in someone elses country annexing chunks of it for themselves ?

    And if I am the "religious nut" who is trying to tell Americans to make peace - then what does that make you?
    Answer = It makes you into a warmonger, and we all would be much better off if all you warmongers would grow some morality and proper restraint.
    Appeasement has been tried once before. It didn't turn out well

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    Re: U.S.: Putin's Peace Proposal for Ukraine is Nothing But 'Occupation Plan'

    Quote Originally Posted by flogger View Post
    What is it we are supposed to be imposing on Russia then ?



    Its not the US who's troops is it are in someone elses country annexing chunks of it for themselves ?



    Appeasement has been tried once before. It didn't turn out well
    Well, to your first question, nothing.

    To your second point, the US has a history of fighting wars, winning, and then annexing territory, more recently, it's done more covertly, with special ops leaving little or no foot prints, and removing after objectives have been made. Again, imperialism is far broader than real estate acquisition alone.

    And thirdly, I have never heard anybody argue in favor of appeasing wrong doing. And pressing for non provocative policies beforehand, is not appeasement.

    Fourteen years of fighting in the ME has produced (besides the wasteful loss of our own blood and treasure) a sharp increase in terroristic activity and made us less safe. And you want to put more muscle behind it.
    Killing one person is murder, killing 100,000 is foreign policy

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    Re: U.S.: Putin's Peace Proposal for Ukraine is Nothing But 'Occupation Plan'

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    To your second point, the US has a history of fighting wars, winning, and then annexing territory, more recently, it's done more covertly, with special ops leaving little or no foot prints, and removing after objectives have been made. Again, imperialism is far broader than real estate acquisition alone.
    What has this to do with what Russia is up to in Ukraine ?

    And thirdly, I have never heard anybody argue in favor of appeasing wrong doing.
    The earlier poster certainly gave a good impression of doing so then

    And pressing for non provocative policies beforehand, is not appeasement.
    What about what Ukraine wants ? What if she proactively wants to be part of the EU and NATO ?

    Fourteen years of fighting in the ME has produced (besides the wasteful loss of our own blood and treasure) a sharp increase in terroristic activity and made us less safe. And you want to put more muscle behind it.
    The ME has nothing to do with this conflict

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    Re: U.S.: Putin's Peace Proposal for Ukraine is Nothing But 'Occupation Plan'

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    Wrong again and still. Let me be the one to articulate my own argument, hear? I'm pointing to the hypocrisy of the US (and YOU) for accusing Russia of using military force to advance their interests when there's no end to the examples of the US doing the same, and not always overtly!
    You fail to comprehend what hypocrisy is.
    And Putin did invade the Ukraine with soldiers who had removed their insignia and he denied this for weeks, until he had full control then he finally admitted it.
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    Re: U.S.: Putin's Peace Proposal for Ukraine is Nothing But 'Occupation Plan'

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    You and the rest of the patronising posters may characterise exposing wrong doing as "putting down" but that is candid deflection!
    If you care about exposing wrong doing then why are you not Lambasting Putin?
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    Re: U.S.: Putin's Peace Proposal for Ukraine is Nothing But 'Occupation Plan'

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    To your second point, the US has a history of fighting wars, winning, and then annexing territory, more recently, it's done more covertly, with special ops leaving little or no foot prints, and removing after objectives have been made. Again, imperialism is far broader than real estate acquisition alone.
    What exactly has the US annexed in the past 100 years?


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