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    Re: Canadian soldiers clash with ISIL in Iraq

    Quote Originally Posted by soot View Post
    Because fighting them there for, give or take, a decade and a half has led to fewer, and less violent/aggressive/expansionist/whatever Extremist Muslims?

    Just curious at what point we should sit down and think about this and NOT continue doing the same exact things that have been pretty much 100% ineffective...
    The only reason it is ineffective is the cowards on the left who do everything in their power to undermine it.

    We should have done what we have done successfully in the past: Pacify and educate. It takes a few decades to take hold, but the goal is to take part in raising a generation that doesn't know the brutal barbarism of their parents time.
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    Re: Canadian soldiers clash with ISIL in Iraq

    Quote Originally Posted by jmotivator View Post
    The only reason it is ineffective is the cowards on the left who do everything in their power to undermine it.

    We should have done what we have done successfully in the past: Pacify and educate. It takes a few decades to take hold, but the goal is to take part in raising a generation that doesn't know the brutal barbarism of their parents time.
    So basically occupy 4/5ths of the Arab Muslim world for four or five decades and reeducate.

    Sounds cost effective and fun.

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    Re: Canadian soldiers clash with ISIL in Iraq

    Quote Originally Posted by jmotivator View Post
    The only reason it is ineffective is the cowards on the left who do everything in their power to undermine it.

    We should have done what we have done successfully in the past: Pacify and educate. It takes a few decades to take hold, but the goal is to take part in raising a generation that doesn't know the brutal barbarism of their parents time.
    How long would it take in Afghanistan?
    How long for Iraq?
    The culture within the country has to change, thinking that takes a few decades is ludicrous.
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    Re: Canadian soldiers clash with ISIL in Iraq

    Quote Originally Posted by JANFU View Post
    How long would it take in Afghanistan?
    How long for Iraq?
    The culture within the country has to change, thinking that takes a few decades is ludicrous.
    Japan, Korea, Germany-all changed significantly in a few decades.

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    Re: Canadian soldiers clash with ISIL in Iraq

    Quote Originally Posted by US Conservative View Post
    Japan, Korea, Germany-all changed significantly in a few decades.
    Moving goal posts?
    Not a reasonable comparison- You know that as well as i.
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    Re: Canadian soldiers clash with ISIL in Iraq

    Quote Originally Posted by JANFU View Post
    Moving goal posts?
    Not a reasonable comparison- You know that as well as i.
    How so? Werent they fairly radical ideologies often with centuries of history that changed fairly rapidly and in significant ways?

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    Re: Canadian soldiers clash with ISIL in Iraq

    Quote Originally Posted by US Conservative View Post
    How so? Werent they fairly radical ideologies often with centuries of history that changed fairly rapidly and in significant ways?
    Culture, religions, history, judicial systems, educational levels, are just a small part of the difference between these and Astan and Iraq.
    Japan - The Emperor spoke and they obeyed. From what I understand not one US soldier who landed was attacked. That is obedience. Little religious diversity - mostly Shinto.
    Germans - complete defeat - but they also had a thriving democracy before Hitler.
    So we should return to the topic?
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    Re: Canadian soldiers clash with ISIL in Iraq

    Quote Originally Posted by JANFU View Post
    Culture, religions, history, judicial systems, educational levels, are just a small part of the difference between these and Astan and Iraq.
    Japan - The Emperor spoke and they obeyed. From what I understand not one US soldier who landed was attacked. That is obedience. Little religious diversity - mostly Shinto.
    Germans - complete defeat - but they also had a thriving democracy before Hitler.
    So we should return to the topic?
    They were extremist ideologies, and lets face it ISIS isn't known for its tolerance and diversity.

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    Re: Canadian soldiers clash with ISIL in Iraq

    Quote Originally Posted by CanadaJohn View Post
    The left here in Canada are no less apologists for ISIS and Muslim extremism. The leading Liberal in Canada believes our only role should be to airdrop blankets and food to the innocent people driven from their homes and lives by savages. They believe the above noted interaction between Canadian forces and ISIS scum is a scandal against our Conservative Prime Minister and his government rather than an example of the fine, brave young men and women who serve in our forces. Disgusting.
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    Re: Canadian soldiers clash with ISIL in Iraq

    Quote Originally Posted by jmotivator View Post
    The only reason it is ineffective is the cowards on the left who do everything in their power to undermine it.

    We should have done what we have done successfully in the past: Pacify and educate. It takes a few decades to take hold, but the goal is to take part in raising a generation that doesn't know the brutal barbarism of their parents time.
    Sure, worked great in Vietnam, why not Iraq? It's also been a winning strategy for Israel in Gaza.

    You want to occupy Iraq for decades and then complain about government spending on the other hand? Please, have some self-respect.


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