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    Re: Dutch court blocks extradition to U.S. over torture concerns.....

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    If nothing else we can have our spec ops suicide him where he is. No problem.
    Except that would be a violation of just about every basic international law, it would risk and international incident no country would need or want and it would risk the death/prosecution of the suspects of such a crime.
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    Re: Dutch court blocks extradition to U.S. over torture concerns.....

    Quote Originally Posted by joG View Post
    ISI - Pakistan? What does that have to do with it? The probability of a person extradited by a European nation to the US being tortured was always remote, but is now less likely than were they extradited to some European countries.
    But the Obama/Feinstein idiocy as intellectually corrupt as the broad brush allegations were have made sensible action more difficult for the court.
    No, the issue is that the Netherlands has signed a treaty, to which the Dutch government is legally bound to comply, that makes it impossible to extradite suspects to countries who have in the past used torture against that suspect.
    Former military man (and now babysitter of Donald Trump) John Kelly, is a big loud lying empty barrel!

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    Re: Dutch court blocks extradition to U.S. over torture concerns.....

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    The point was that the dutch were denying extradition before the report came out. There is no way to determine that they would have given the suspect to the US without the report. As such, all we have is that the Dutch have remained consistent in their stance that they won't release suspects if they fear those suspects may be tortured.
    The issue is not "may be tortured" but the issue is that he already has been tortured and that the US ordered that arrest/torture at the hands of the ISI. Not that he may be tortured in future, this is purely based on the circumstance surrounding his arrest/torture.
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    Re: Dutch court blocks extradition to U.S. over torture concerns.....

    Quote Originally Posted by CanadaJohn View Post
    Good afternoon MMC

    I have to ask, if the man was in the hands of the Pakistani ISI, how is it that he was not handed over to the US when the Pakistanis were finished with him and how did he manage to find his way to the Netherlands? Seems to me another example of the Pakistanis not being the best of US friends.
    The man has both a Dutch and Pakistani passport. His mother has the Dutch nationality. And the Pakistanis shipped him off to the Netherlands.
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    Re: Dutch court blocks extradition to U.S. over torture concerns.....

    Quote Originally Posted by Peter King View Post
    No, the issue is that the Netherlands has signed a treaty, to which the Dutch government is legally bound to comply, that makes it impossible to extradite suspects to countries who have in the past used torture against that suspect.
    Ah. The individual may not have been tortured.

    Was he tortured? What exactly was done? And who did it?

    I don't remember the specifics of individual case right now. It's too long ago that I looked.

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    Re: Dutch court blocks extradition to U.S. over torture concerns.....

    Quote Originally Posted by Peter King View Post
    Except that would be a violation of just about every basic international law, it would risk and international incident no country would need or want and it would risk the death/prosecution of the suspects of such a crime.
    That's why we use spec-ops, so that we get away with it, that's what spec-ops are for.

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    Re: Dutch court blocks extradition to U.S. over torture concerns.....

    Quote Originally Posted by BrewerBob View Post
    The Netherlands is a nation of laws and I see no reason why they should break their own law for the sake of appeasing the US.
    even if we wanted this, we cannot.
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    Re: Dutch court blocks extradition to U.S. over torture concerns.....

    Quote Originally Posted by joG View Post
    Ah. The individual may not have been tortured.

    Was he tortured? What exactly was done? And who did it?

    I don't remember the specifics of individual case right now. It's too long ago that I looked.
    He supposedly was tortured in Pakistan.
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    Re: Dutch court blocks extradition to U.S. over torture concerns.....

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    That's why we use spec-ops, so that we get away with it, that's what spec-ops are for.
    They are good, but not infallible. And again, totally and completely illegal.
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    Re: Dutch court blocks extradition to U.S. over torture concerns.....

    Quote Originally Posted by Peter King View Post
    They are good, but not infallible. And again, totally and completely illegal.
    I don't know what the Dutch laws are regarding suicide, you would have to take it up with Sabir Khan before he slips and falls in the shower

    On that note, I'm going to watch my torrent of American Sniper

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