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    Re: The 1% will own more than the 99% by 2016, report says

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    "In Fall 2005, the House and Senate each passed health care insurance reform bills. The legislature made a number of changes to Governor Romney's original proposal, including expanding MassHealth (Medicaid and SCHIP) coverage to low-income children and restoring funding for public health programs. The most controversial change was the addition of a provision which requires firms with 11 or more workers that do not provide "fair and reasonable" health coverage to their workers to pay an annual penalty. This contribution, initially $295 annually per worker, is intended to equalize the free care pool charges imposed on employers who do and do not cover their workers.

    On April 12, 2006, Governor Romney signed the health legislation.[19] He vetoed eight sections of the health care legislation, including the controversial employer assessment.[20] He vetoed provisions providing dental benefits to poor residents on the Medicaid program, and providing health coverage to senior and disabled legal immigrants not eligible for federal Medicaid.[21] The legislature promptly overrode six of the eight gubernatorial section vetoes, on May 4, 2006, and by mid-June 2006 had overridden the remaining two."
    You said, and I'll quote you: "The parts he didn't...the individual mandate, most importantly, he didn't sign into law."

    What you referenced above is the EMPLOYER mandate. Two entirely different mandates. Nothing works without an individual mandate, which is why Romney supported it in Mass. and why it's in the ACA.

    The broad reform CAN work without an employer mandate. Not as well, and it encourages employers to offload their healthcare costs onto taxpayers, but nothing crucial depends on employers kicking in some amount.

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    Re: The 1% will own more than the 99% by 2016, report says

    Quote Originally Posted by JasperL View Post
    You said most of the reduction in net worth was increases in debt, but no increases in assets. Evidence? And this proves what? They're better off because they went into debt for cars they are upside down in (no increase in assets) and for a college education that got them no wage increases?
    Personal financial mismanagement is not a fault of society. It is the fault of the individual.

    And the two positives you mentioned to indicate living standards have not dropped is stuff they bought on credit. Are they better off having to borrow to go to college and to be upside down in their car loans? And let's face it - without added debt, our economy does FAR less well during that period, so wages drop further, fewer jobs, fewer profits for DJIA, etc.
    I didn't call them "positives" and you should evaluate your own statement here.

    You tell me. If you're going to point out that Clinton signed a bunch of this stuff, sure. Supported all along the way by GOPers. I didn't make this partisan and I don't feel any need to defend policies signed by democrats because they are democrats.
    Ok, then, where do these policies come from then?

    And unions weren't "unamerican" for the soldiers that fought and put their lives on the line in WWII. When did this idea of unions become UNamerican? What year was that?
    *sigh*

    Unions are not Un-American. Forcing someone to join one so that they are "allowed" to get a job is un-American.
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    Re: The 1% will own more than the 99% by 2016, report says

    Quote Originally Posted by TeleKat View Post
    Do you even know what economic scarcity is??
    Yes. You are using it incorrectly.
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    Re: The 1% will own more than the 99% by 2016, report says

    Quote Originally Posted by JasperL View Post
    You said, and I'll quote you: "The parts he didn't...the individual mandate, most importantly, he didn't sign into law."

    What you referenced above is the EMPLOYER mandate. Two entirely different mandates. Nothing works without an individual mandate, which is why Romney supported it in Mass. and why it's in the ACA.

    The broad reform CAN work without an employer mandate. Not as well, and it encourages employers to offload their healthcare costs onto taxpayers, but nothing crucial depends on employers kicking in some amount.
    How many sections did he veto and how many are specifically named in that reference?
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    Re: The 1% will own more than the 99% by 2016, report says

    Quote Originally Posted by mac View Post
    Yes. You are using it incorrectly.
    Economic scarcity is used to refer to a state where resources are limited. It is the most basic and fundamental economic law in every school of thought on the planet.

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    Re: The 1% will own more than the 99% by 2016, report says

    Quote Originally Posted by TeleKat View Post
    Economic scarcity is used to refer to a state where resources are limited. It is the most basic and fundamental economic law in every school of thought on the planet.
    Not just limited...insufficient. Earths resources are not insufficient to our needs.
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    Re: The 1% will own more than the 99% by 2016, report says

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    Not just limited...insufficient. Earths resources are not insufficient to our needs.
    Neither statement is correct.

    1. Economic scarcity refers to limited resources. All resources are scarce.

    2. Earth's resources are depleting at a signifcant rate due to perpetual waste and overcrowding.

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    Re: The 1% will own more than the 99% by 2016, report says

    Let's go all you people who really want to help those who are poor. Here is a good start

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MEb_epsuLqA

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    Re: The 1% will own more than the 99% by 2016, report says

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Right, forgot how specific I have to be with liberals, I was talking FEDERAL INCOME TAXES not use taxes.

    I care about people being taxed even you. If you care so much about what the govt gets then send more of your income to the Federal Govt. and stop trying to spread liberal misery equally to everyone else. What is it about liberals who worry so much about how much money goes to the govt. yet never sends in more than required. If you truly cared, help your local bureaucrats out by sending them more of your own money
    So if it's not the Federal income tax, it isn't a tax. Maybe when your purpose is to blindly defend Republicans. I guess EVERY governor can say they never raised taxes then.


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    Re: The 1% will own more than the 99% by 2016, report says

    Quote Originally Posted by TeleKat View Post
    Neither statement is correct.

    1. Economic scarcity refers to limited resources. All resources are scarce.
    That's just incorrect. You need to go back to the books.

    2. Earth's resources are depleting at a signifcant rate due to perpetual waste and overcrowding.
    That they are depleting at any rate does not automatically mean that they are insufficient for our needs.
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