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The 1% will own more than the 99% by 2016, report says

So your point is that you think it unfair to blame a President for oil prices, did it stop anyone in the past? Hell no it didn't.

So what you are saying is that it's OK to blame Obummer, but it wasn't OK to blame Bush?
 
So what you are saying is that it's OK to blame Obummer, but it wasn't OK to blame Bush?

It's more like, Bush's opponents blamed him whenever something went wrong, so, to get back, we have to blame Obama.

It's kind of silly, but that's how politics are.
 
So what you are saying is that it's OK to blame Obummer, but it wasn't OK to blame Bush?

No, I am saying that we all saw the very same people in here right now who ran around during Bush's term when prices were high blaming him on that, now trying to say that because Obama is in all of the sudden the President can't control oil prices....You have the jist, just that you have it backwards.
 
It's more like, Bush's opponents blamed him whenever something went wrong, so, to get back, we have to blame Obama.

It's kind of silly, but that's how politics are.

Well, why should there be different standards?
 
It's about as logical as blaming Obama for not instantly having an economic recovery from the longest recession since the Great Depression.



What "instantly"?

This is why your posts are the most annoying.

NO ONE criticized your little mouse monkey for there being no "instant" recovery....but NO recovery for the price of SEVEN BILLION DOLLARS the first time has been an issue. Let's compare Obama's seven years of recovery to say, Canada's. How about France...India, now there's a real good one.....

FFS, NOW the US is starting to become stable, some people have started to regain part of their life savings, some may one day even have homes again, but the lying bunch of turds in the White House and the gerbils who regurgitate their droppings only look at job figures, which are as tortured as the lie that is Obamacare.

The fact is the US has been in the dumpster digging for food for seven ****ing years under Obama's presidency, while he worsened things by ramming through the worst health care plan in the known universe.

You want to compare Reagan to this flea? Show me how Americans were still worse off after three years of HIS presidency. Show me where Libyans could kill Americans and get away with it...show me where under Reagan millions lost their homes while he spent Christmas in Hawaii.

Yeah, let's have a whole show of comparisons...then we can compare this lying asshole coward to Carter, Ford, and Clinton...and see just who the **** actually gets anything done.

As if you'd eve
 
No, I am saying that we all saw the very same people in here right now who ran around during Bush's term when prices were high blaming him on that, now trying to say that because Obama is in all of the sudden the President can't control oil prices....You have the jist, just that you have it backwards.

I've seen many a political hack blaming Obama for high gas prices, at least up until about six months ago.

It works ALL ways. There are political hacks on every side.
 
I've seen many a political hack blaming Obama for high gas prices, at least up until about six months ago.

It works ALL ways. There are political hacks on every side.

So where were you before? You don't get to just show up when Obama is getting his due on this front and all of the sudden say 'wait, wait....it isn't his fault'...It doesn't work that way.
 
What do you think? The middle class is disappearing. At one time increases in productivity equated to wage increases.

Here is the problem. Increases in productivty is no longer going toward wage increases for many.
 
What "instantly"?

This is why your posts are the most annoying.

NO ONE criticized your little mouse monkey for there being no "instant" recovery....but NO recovery for the price of SEVEN BILLION DOLLARS the first time has been an issue. Let's compare Obama's seven years of recovery to say, Canada's. How about France...India, now there's a real good one.....

FFS, NOW the US is starting to become stable, some people have started to regain part of their life savings, some may one day even have homes again, but the lying bunch of turds in the White House and the gerbils who regurgitate their droppings only look at job figures, which are as tortured as the lie that is Obamacare.

The fact is the US has been in the dumpster digging for food for seven ****ing years under Obama's presidency, while he worsened things by ramming through the worst health care plan in the known universe.

You want to compare Reagan to this flea? Show me how Americans were still worse off after three years of HIS presidency. Show me where Libyans could kill Americans and get away with it...show me where under Reagan millions lost their homes while he spent Christmas in Hawaii.

Yeah, let's have a whole show of comparisons...then we can compare this lying asshole coward to Carter, Ford, and Clinton...and see just who the **** actually gets anything done.

As if you'd eve

Outstanding but it was 7 TRILLION Dollars not billions but the rest of your post is right on. Amazing how poorly informed the Obama base is and even though Imagep says he didn't vote for Obama Imagep sure spends most of time defending the indefensible by basically ignore the actual results and posting meaningless information and posts that never address the actual issue.
 
So where were you before? You don't get to just show up when Obama is getting his due on this front and all of the sudden say 'wait, wait....it isn't his fault'...It doesn't work that way.

Sure it does. I'm an independent!

I can say whatever I want, with no constraints.
 
Sure it does. I'm an independent!

I can say whatever I want, with no constraints.

We all like to think we are "independents", and I am not saying that you are as partisan as it can get, but I do sense more of a lean toward progressive policy than not...Plus it doesn't help your case to sport a Bush as a clown avatar...
 
Outstanding but it was 7 TRILLION Dollars not billions but the rest of your post is right on. Amazing how poorly informed the Obama base is and even though Imagep says he didn't vote for Obama Imagep sure spends most of time defending the indefensible by basically ignore the actual results and posting meaningless information and posts that never address the actual issue.



I completely disregard what people in here say about how they voted. It is inconceivable that such died-in-the-wool Obama propagandists voted for Romney, and from the time they spend in here I would suggest sitting out is not part of the equation.

What I adore, what is so classically stupid and moronic is that EVERY defense of Obama, from the handling of the recession to Obamacare to invading or not invading is compared with the WORST of president's who have gone before....except Clinton. Never is there that comparison as, if you think about Clinton comes out as "great" in comparison having committed the Cardinal sin of co-operating with the opposition as it was intended in the constitution.

Economics? They will drag up Bush, make him the fall guy,. again ignoring Clinton who drove the greed wedge of mortgages deeper and deeper. The middle east? Bush did it too, the Bush who was satan to them for eight years is now on a par with this "brilliant" whatever....a guy who has never had a private sector job and never completed any elected term and never had to make payroll.

As each new disaster breaks, a new former "failed" president or contender is dragged out....Obamacare surges to new, stratospeheric costs? Well, Romney, he who they demonized is responsible for that.

Anything foreign policy related and, sure as **** flows down hill, there will be a Sarah Palin thread within 48 hours, a woman who holds no office, has not held office in over six years, and who now gets the wrath of these slugs because she resigned her elected office just like....guess who.....Barrack Hussein Obama.

Which makes Barrack Hussein Obama no better, not one iota better than the worst of Truman, which was pretty bad, Eisenhower, which wasn't, Kennedy, Johnson, Nixon, which was very ugly, Reagan, which was the best presidency of the modern era, Bush, Clinton and Bush.....and there is a lot of worst they are admitting to.

The greatest single achievement of his entire career, his life in fact, is an 1,100 page law deliberately structured with "tortured language" designed to be able to argue it is not a tax to the GBO and is a tax to the Supreme court, a law designed to deliberately confuse "stupid voters" and which had to be flogged from the White House like some cheap Ginzo Knife late nite tv infomercial based on lies repeated 44 times on record.


That, behind the most secretive and shallow administration ever which audaciously promised "mine will be the most open and accountable administration in the history of the United States!" pretty well sizes it all up...

For their own sake they have to keep lying...to themselves. No dream of any political movement, not Martin Luther King with his death, not Nixon and his criminal acts, not Johnson and his "great society", none has been dealt so traitorously as have the stupid voters who still cling to this guy's fantasy cape in the belief he can at all know the difference between reality and what comes out of his mouth.
 
I get that you think I lean liberal, but I believe that I don't lean any more one direction than the other.

Have you ever met a progressive who despises means tested welfare?
 
What do you think? The middle class is disappearing. At one time increases in productivity equated to wage increases.
https://fortune.com/2015/01/19/the-1-will-own-more-than-the-99-by-2016-report-says/
The richest 1% of the population will own more than half of the world’s wealth by next year as inequality continues its relentless rise across the globe, a new report out Monday says.

The report, by the U.K.-based charity Oxfam, shows that the top 1% have grown their share of global wealth constantly since 2010. After dipping at 44% in the wake of the 2008 financial crisis, it rose to 48% by the end of last year and is poised to top 50% by the end of next year.

Basically this means the vast majority of people in the United States are actually in the top 1% of the world's richest people. How about we stop complaining?
 
There shouldn't.

But, wouldn't rationality be better than the team sport that politics has become?

Like it or not, it is what it is...We are supposed to learn from history, not keep repeating it. And, as I recall you yourself are not immune to playing a bit of antagonistic team sport when it suits you....;) Now, we can't get to "rational" discussion, or even negotiation with one side playing dishonestly with everything that sways arguments in their favor...At some point the rationality has to start with one side opening their fist does it not?

If you for example want to have a discussion, which I know you well enough to know that you are one that is possible with, then you have to remain open enough to know when someone like me makes a valid point and not just shoot it down because that is what you think should be done to further your argument....

Anyway, I ramble....
 
I get that you think I lean liberal, but I believe that I don't lean any more one direction than the other.

Have you ever met a progressive who despises means tested welfare?

I believe that people on an anonymous message board can say a great many things....It really doesn't mean squat. I look at the positions you take as a whole, and reading from that, I would say that yes, you lean liberal.
 
Like it or not, it is what it is...We are supposed to learn from history, not keep repeating it. And, as I recall you yourself are not immune to playing a bit of antagonistic team sport when it suits you....;) Now, we can't get to "rational" discussion, or even negotiation with one side playing dishonestly with everything that sways arguments in their favor...At some point the rationality has to start with one side opening their fist does it not?

If you for example want to have a discussion, which I know you well enough to know that you are one that is possible with, then you have to remain open enough to know when someone like me makes a valid point and not just shoot it down because that is what you think should be done to further your argument....

Anyway, I ramble....

Yes, one side should open its fist, so to speak.

But, if not, those of us standing on the sidelines and watching the match are entertained.
 
Yep. You notice they don't say that this disparity has grown worse than ever under Obama. They won't make the connection

Now, if Bush were in office, they would be all, Bush, Bush , Bush

But they can't wrap their heads around the truth of what you just said.

Facts make Liberals' heads explode, like this:




Wealth inequality always worsens in recessions that why Republicans have so many of them while in office. In fact if Romney had won we would most likely be in another recession right now.
 
Listen to the beginning of this speech...Reagan had it exactly right even 50 years ago when he gave it....It could be said today.

 
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