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    Re: The 1% will own more than the 99% by 2016, report says

    Quote Originally Posted by ocean515 View Post
    I am aware the Pacific Gyre has more to do with hyperbole than it does with facts. Along with Greenpeace, many "environmental" groups have been altered from their original mission. The Sierra Club is a great example of this. It exists today as a extremely well funded radical lobby group where the wealthy liberal elite can donate money and receive a tax write-off, but push a hidden Liberal/Progressive agenda through the usual suspects.

    I advise people to google the names of all these various think tanks, websites, and special interest groups, but add Open Society Institute, or Democracy Alliance, or Tides Foundation and learn about the connections and global effort. It's really quite an interconnected enterprise.


    That's a great assessment. and please, the Sierra Club, Ducks Unlimited and a host of well-funded do-gooders are creating more harm than good. Years ago they funded a campaign to stop the annual wolf kill. They succeeded for three years before farmers, ranchers etc. sued the government to bring it back.

    The meme from these "think tanks" is that over-fishing caused the collapse of the cod fishery. Yes, but not solely. The pressure on the Atlantic Seal hunt increased the numbers of by-the-ton eating seals while no one thought to reduce the harvest at the same time.

    I hear "think tank" and I hear propaganda. I covered these dead beats for years, they draw a conclusion, like "minimum wage increases spending" draft some numbers to support it, get a whole bunch of friends to sign off on it, then "publish it" as a "research paper". It was a technique developed here in the 1960's and 70's when someone realized no petition in the history of Canada has ever been read by anyone remotely connected to government. I believe there is an abandoned mine north of Ottawa where they are kept for posterity.

    It is an effective tool for the modern information age. We hear a neat sounding name like "Progressive Research", some numbers that are frightening and a simplistic conclusion. Talk show hosts needing to fill hours of air time eat up this crap, and the "stupid voter" who only gets the headline and a bit, accepts it as Gospel. It is "science" after all.
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    Re: The 1% will own more than the 99% by 2016, report says

    Quote Originally Posted by AliHajiSheik View Post
    At least someone understands math.
    So you are telling me 1% of the worlds population which includes women and children along with other non working people are equal to 1% of the top income earners? Are you sure you want to claim that someone understands math?

    There are approximately 6 billion people and 1% of that number would be 60 million. Are you telling me that there are 60 million people making up the top 1%?

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    Re: The 1% will own more than the 99% by 2016, report says

    Quote Originally Posted by Middleground
    The average annual income of the top 1 percent of the population is $717,000, compared to the average income of the rest of the population, which is around $51,000.
    That... is... awesome. We are so awesome at doing so many awesome things that you have to make $717K a year just to break into our top 1%. Go America

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    Re: The 1% will own more than the 99% by 2016, report says

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    That... is... awesome. We are so awesome at doing so many awesome things that you have to make $717K a year just to break into our top 1%. Go America
    Yes, only in America are there no top limits on what people can earn and many at the bottom have risen to the top through hard work, risk taking and no whining

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    Re: The 1% will own more than the 99% by 2016, report says

    Quote Originally Posted by Fearandloathing View Post
    That's a great assessment. and please, the Sierra Club, Ducks Unlimited and a host of well-funded do-gooders are creating more harm than good. Years ago they funded a campaign to stop the annual wolf kill. They succeeded for three years before farmers, ranchers etc. sued the government to bring it back.

    The meme from these "think tanks" is that over-fishing caused the collapse of the cod fishery. Yes, but not solely. The pressure on the Atlantic Seal hunt increased the numbers of by-the-ton eating seals while no one thought to reduce the harvest at the same time.

    I hear "think tank" and I hear propaganda. I covered these dead beats for years, they draw a conclusion, like "minimum wage increases spending" draft some numbers to support it, get a whole bunch of friends to sign off on it, then "publish it" as a "research paper". It was a technique developed here in the 1960's and 70's when someone realized no petition in the history of Canada has ever been read by anyone remotely connected to government. I believe there is an abandoned mine north of Ottawa where they are kept for posterity.

    It is an effective tool for the modern information age. We hear a neat sounding name like "Progressive Research", some numbers that are frightening and a simplistic conclusion. Talk show hosts needing to fill hours of air time eat up this crap, and the "stupid voter" who only gets the headline and a bit, accepts it as Gospel. It is "science" after all.
    Indeed. It's a fascinating study of propaganda and societal manipulation in the modern age. The front and center groups make claims about the evils of the rich, or whatever the bright shiny object is, and then surround the claim with learned research from thoughtful sounding groups like the Center for Budget and Policy Priorities. Not mentioned is they own them. On and on it goes. And the target audience laps it up, and carries the torch, oblivious to how they've been played.

    That's what they've done to California, and the blind gleefully assist in the dismantling of a once mighty economic powerhouse.

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    Re: The 1% will own more than the 99% by 2016, report says

    i am kinda waiting for the new medicare recipients to make california's budget explode

    what too many overlooked in the bill, is that the 100% federal reimbursement only lasts a few years

    and then it is reduced every year thereafter till i think it is a 90% reimbursement

    with that many new recipients on the rolls, how much is that going to cost a state that is already in budget trouble

    sacramento will not be a safe haven for politicians when that hits the proverbial fan
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    Re: The 1% will own more than the 99% by 2016, report says

    Quote Originally Posted by UtahBill View Post
    Funny, I feel rich...
    WE have all we need and most of our wants...
    Great wealth is a good thing if it is used to help others.
    Otherwise, it is just a bunch of numbers.
    Which is a great point!

    No one really NEEDS tens of millions or hundreds of millions or even billions of dollars to have a very nice lifestyle.

    Now if they have that, as long as it was legally and morally acquired, I certainly have no ill feelings towards them, but there is no reason they can't afford to pay a good chunk of that in taxes, without harming their standard of living at all.

    I get tired of the whiners and complainers who complain that they had to pay sooooo much taxes on their millions of dollars of income, especially when there are guys like you and me who live quite comfortably on a fraction of that amount.
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    Re: The 1% will own more than the 99% by 2016, report says

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Yes, only in America are there no top limits on what people can earn and many at the bottom have risen to the top through hard work, risk taking and no whining
    Oh, we all do plenty of whining.
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    Re: The 1% will own more than the 99% by 2016, report says

    Quote Originally Posted by imagep View Post
    Oh, we all do plenty of whining.
    What do you call it when you complain about how much someone ELSE pays in taxes or how much someone else has? Stop trolling as I know this is an act

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    Re: The 1% will own more than the 99% by 2016, report says

    Quote Originally Posted by TerryOfromCA View Post
    Yep. You notice they don't say that this disparity has grown worse than ever under Obama. They won't make the connection

    Now, if Bush were in office, they would be all, Bush, Bush , Bush

    But they can't wrap their heads around the truth of what you just said.

    Facts make Liberals' heads explode, like this:





    The robot's head didn't explode, it just melted down internally.

    Watch the video again.

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