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Obama to call for new tax increases in State of the Union address

ludin said:
I just showed that it was according to the IRS.
you are required to file any and all estate taxes within 60 days of the persons death.

so yes it is a death tax.
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Filing is not paying, within any time frame filing is merely a report.
 
disneydude said:
More dance and shuffle around the facts.....sorry Con....but you can dance around the facts, but the facts remain. Texas is tied with Mississippi for paying the lowest wages and having the largest percentage of people working for minimum wage. No wonder your education and healthcare systems rank near the bottom as well. Keep living that Texas "dream".....LOL
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No dancing at all, just the facts. How is it living in California on that minimum wage vs. TX. You love your state, great, but don't try to spread California economic misery to the rest of the nation. Let me know what Fortune 500 Companies have moved to TX that are paying minimum wage? I am not a native Texan but love it here. I have been to California many times, have family in California and economically your state is a disaster, high cost of living, high taxes, low economic growth, massive debt, yes, a liberal utopia

Don't blame you from hijacking the thread so once again please tell me how any rich person prevented you from joining them in a higher income group?
 
haymarket said:
1- there are no such thing as death taxes.
2- there is no relationship between taxes paid and services used so drop that phony line at once or take it back into the barn with the other strawmen.
3- until you can calculate such things - it is intellectual fraud to hide behind them since they are unproven and unquantifiable.
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silly opinion noted as silly and statist. Intellectual fraud-LMAO seeing that in your post
 
Thrilla said:
tax revenues from individuals go to about 160 commercials banks who process the payments and sent them to the federal reserve bank of NY where they are deposited in note option depositories.
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and they then cease to exist?
 
TurtleDude said:
silly opinion noted as silly and statist. Intellectual fraud-LMAO seeing that in your post
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not one thing you said dealt with my post that you reproduced and you utterly failed to refute one thing I said.
 
disneydude said:
More dance and shuffle around the facts.....sorry Con....but you can dance around the facts, but the facts remain. Texas is tied with Mississippi for paying the lowest wages and having the largest percentage of people working for minimum wage. No wonder your education and healthcare systems rank near the bottom as well. Keep living that Texas "dream".....LOL
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Yep, Disney, California and New York have it figured out now they want to spread that misery equally to everyone else

2. California
Average Annual State and Local Taxes: $9,509rWhat do you think?
Difference from National Average: 36 percentrWhat do you think?
Adjusted Rank by Cost of Living: 50rWhat do you think?

Sunshine and ocean waves come at a steep price. California ranks as the second worst state for taxpayers, with the average burden totaling $9,509. In comparison, Nevada has an average annual state and local tax bill of $3,370, third lowest in the nation. California is considering a tax overhaul that could increase revenue by $10 billion a year. Last year, voters in Berkeley passed the country’s first soda tax, charging consumers one penny per ounce on sugary drinks.
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Read more: Top 10 States With the Highest Taxes


Guess having the highest number of people below the poverty level isn't good enough so they want to make it worse
 
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Conservative said:
Yep, Disney, California and New York have it figured out now they want to spread that misery equally to everyone else




Read more: Top 10 States With the Highest Taxes


Guess having the highest number of people below the poverty level isn't good enough so they want to make it worse
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per capita statistics, how do they work?
 
Conservative said:
Obama to call for new tax increases in State of the Union address | Fox News

Let's here it Obama supporters how does taxing the rich benefit the U.S. economy and how much money is going to be generated to fund the liberal spending appetite?

Class warfare is never going to solve the problems we face in this country and what ever happened to incentive to create more upper class individuals? Growing up I always strove to generate enough money to pay for a family that I hoped to have and fund charities that I want to support. My education process taught me the value of hard work and the desire to succeed. What happened to that philosophy in today's world? Why is it the Federal Government's role to tell the private sector where to spend its own money and on what?
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I see you and Fox News are framing it with as much bias as possible with that headline. Nevermind that the tax increase is on the wealthy and would be used to offset the tax cuts for the middle class. Lets just ignore that in the right-wing echo-chamber. :lol:
 
SlevinKelevra said:
So which of your three claims are you standing by?
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I only made 1 claim so you don't know what you are talking about as usual.
and one simple typo neither of which negates the fact it is a death tax.

so why don't you actually come up with an argument since as usual you don't have one.
 
TurtleDude said:
bit of shame that socialists hate investment and think it sholud be doubly taxed

everyone should pay the same rate
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Even those corporate persons?
 
poweRob said:
I see you and Fox News are framing it with as much bias as possible with that headline. Nevermind that the tax increase is on the wealthy and would be used to offset the tax cuts for the middle class. Lets just ignore that in the right-wing echo-chamber. :lol:
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Yes, never mind that it is supposed to generate 32 billion a year which is a drop in the bucket and does nothing but make people like you feel good. Still believing you have to pay to keep more of your money? Keep supporting Obama and making Gruber look brilliant.
 
ludin said:
I only made 1 claim so you don't know what you are talking about as usual.
and one simple typo neither of which negates the fact it is a death tax.

so why don't you actually come up with an argument since as usual you don't have one.
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http://www.debatepolitics.com/break...es-state-union-address-45.html#post1064214021
6 months


http://www.debatepolitics.com/break...es-state-union-address-44.html#post1064213959
9 months

http://www.debatepolitics.com/break...es-state-union-address-50.html#post1064214466
60 days
 
Conservative said:
Yes, never mind that it is supposed to generate 32 billion a year which is a drop in the bucket and does nothing but make people like you feel good. Still believing you have to pay to keep more of your money? Keep supporting Obama and making Gruber look brilliant.
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Of course you don't have any concept of what an economy is and that generating tax revenue... (which you agree will rise) There is also all the increased economic flow being that middle class people generally don't have offshore accounts to hide their money and actually put those $'s back into the economy.
 
Conservative said:
Still concerned about how much money is going to the govt, I see. Doesn't matter how it is wasted, I mean spent.
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Still concerned with making up your own bubble and talking to yourself rather than asking for what I actually think.
 
poweRob said:
Of course you don't have any concept of what an economy is and that generating tax revenue... (which you agree will rise) There is also all the increased economic flow being that middle class people generally don't have offshore accounts to hide their money and actually put those $'s back into the economy.
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No, I agree that Obama made the prediction and also note that none of his predictions have been accurate or what the country expected. Cutting taxes on the Middle Class is great but they don't have to be paid for so why talk about paying for people to keep more of their own money? Now are those tax cuts actually going to people who pay taxes or are they another welfare program? Are they going to be rebates or targeted tax cuts like the money in the Stimulus? Interesting how promoting class warfare excites people like you. Why raise taxes on anyone?
 
poweRob said:
Still concerned with making up your own bubble and talking to yourself rather than asking for what I actually think.
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Anyone that talks about the Federal govt. having to pay for tax cuts or raising taxes in hopes of generating more money to the Federal Govt. says it all so you don't have to say a word
 
Conservative said:
No, I agree that Obama made the prediction and also note that none of his predictions have been accurate or what the country expected. Cutting taxes on the Middle Class is great but they don't have to be paid for so why talk about paying for people to keep more of their own money? Now are those tax cuts actually going to people who pay taxes or are they another welfare program? Are they going to be rebates or targeted tax cuts like the money in the Stimulus? Interesting how promoting class warfare excites people like you. Why raise taxes on anyone?
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Because the fed government requires X amount of dollars to run. That's why. The conservative notion of defunding government to destroy it is so ass-backwards it fits you well. Cut the program(s) you don't want. But you guys instead want to make our country run in deeper and deeper debt until it breaks. I'll tell you why you don't cut the programs or even mention it politically, because the people wont agree with you so you try this backwards "starve the beast" move to kill programs. Just like the GOP is doing now.
 
Conservative said:
Anyone that talks about the Federal govt. having to pay for tax cuts or raising taxes in hopes of generating more money to the Federal Govt. says it all so you don't have to say a word
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No words could ever break the bubble you live in.
 
Blue_State said:
Submit a budget, let's debate it, show what you want to add with the tax money and let's if we can justify a tax increase.

I don't think it can be done.
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that is the process.

It's a process that has been done before every tax increase. It's not really that uncommon, so it can obviously be done.
 
d head said:
Filing is not paying, within any time frame filing is merely a report.
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semantics. you are filing what you will or will not owe and it is required 6 months after the person dies
according to the IRS. so yes it is a death tax.

semantics is not an argument but one makes it if they can't support their original position.
 
poweRob said:
Because the fed government requires X amount of dollars to run. That's why. The conservative notion of defunding government to destroy it is so ass-backwards it fits you well. Cut the program(s) you don't want. But you guys instead want to make our country run in deeper and deeper debt until it breaks. I'll tell you why you don't cut the programs or even mention it politically, because the people wont agree with you so you try this backwards "starve the beast" move to kill programs. Just like the GOP is doing now.
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It is the X amount of dollars to run the govt. that is the question and concern. Please tell me why we need a 3.9 trillion dollar Federal Govt? It certainly is hard cutting programs that buy votes. tough love is need not liberalism

Obama Scales Back Budget Goals - WSJ
 
poweRob said:
No words could ever break the bubble you live in.
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My bubble isn't the problem, the liberal bubble is as spending is never an issue to liberals but don't let people keep more of what they earn.
 
Conservative said:
It is the X amount of dollars to run the govt. that is the question and concern. Please tell me why we need a 3.9 trillion dollar Federal Govt? It certainly is hard cutting programs that buy votes. tough love is need not liberalism

Obama Scales Back Budget Goals - WSJ
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Then call your congressman and tell him grow some nuts and to run on that. Please.
 
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