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Obama to call for new tax increases in State of the Union address

So let me get this straight. More money in the rich hands make more jobs. We have never seen the level of inequality we see now.
The two are mutually exclusive. in fact they aren't related in anyway short of a logical fallacy

Their wealth exploded during the time of the "recession" and yet job growth has been ****.... Underemployment is incredibly high.
That is because many pulled their money out of the market and put it in safer modes of investment like CD's etc ... while can help the economy a little.
it doesn't have a dramatic effect.

also I see you have still failed to define wealth so throwing this term around without a definition is useless.

So they "create jobs"? What jobs? They dont create jobs, they just get more greedy. They outsource jobs. They become more greedy. They dont "reinvest", in the oringal term. Hell, look at Kansas. Kansas did the textbook policy of "trickle down"... Didnt turn out the way they wanted. The people with the wealth increased their wealth, didnt "reinvest" it, they hoarded the wealth. You call this "success", I call it a plutocrats dream.

you can repeat this all you want to but a lie is still a lie.
they don't outsource jobs companies outsource jobs.

252k jobs were supposedly created over the past few months I guess they came out of thin air.

actually they do reinvest.

Kanas is still a bit to early to tell. it could change around for them. economic growth takes time. just as rome wasn't built in a day neither is economic activity.

in 2000 during the first recession bush cut taxes and gave out a stimulus package. it didn't really take hold until almost 3.5 year later.
then the economy boomed.

you can call it whatever you want to that is your opinion.

PS when was the last time a poor person cut you a paycheck please tell me.
 
I would disagree. The history of America has always been that those who have benefited the most pay back more.

By personal choice not you demands. Neighbor helping neighbor are the principles upon which our Founders created this country. You don't understand the concept and prefer the waste, fraud, and abuse of the Federal Govt. because the rhetoric sounds good.
 
Money is being redistributed upwards at an alarming rate due to Govt. policies. Why doesn't Govt. have the duty to slow it down? It is unsustainable. Even if we didn't need the money we would be foolish not to.

Awe, yes, the govt. does own all the money first, don't they? If it weren't for the rich who would you tax to get your share of the wealth?
 
Tell me how any of them would have gotten rich without a healthy middle class to buy their products? You make too much of the 1%, we all admire them but they will always be there at the top of the heap. It's the 90% we need to be concerned about, they are the ones hurting. I bet most of those names you mentioned would agree.

Why do the middle class like their products? They created something that the middle class wants and you want to penalize them for it. If you truly admire them then let them spend their money wherever they want. It isn't the role of the Federal Govt. to take care of the poor in your community, that is your job and the neighbors in your community. You have bought the liberal rhetoric that it is the role of the massive central govt. to provide domestic welfare when it is the role of the Federal Govt. to promote domestic welfare. Why do you support such waste, fraud, and abuse of our Federal Tax dollars. Tell me how any rich person prevented you from becoming rich or getting a bigger share of the growing pie? I keep asking the question and liberals ignore it.
 
Its funny that you didn't say that when Reagan made those huge tax cuts to the upper brackets. Reagan promised that by helping the wealthy the wealth would trickle down to all of us. Isn't that wealth redistribution?

Those that fail to learn from history are doomed to repeat it. No truer words were ever said.

Your ignorance is staggering, Reagan and GW Bush cut taxes for EVERY American who earned income. Again, you keep making my point, liberals like you believe all the money belongs to the govt. and you never hold them accountable for how they waste it.

This country is doomed for failure when you take from those who earned it and give it to those who don't.
 
Were not talking about tax cuts for anyone...Obama is talking about tax increases.

So how does removing this money , even if it is only rich peoples money, benefit anyone?....

No he isn't. He's talking about switching tax cuts that benefit the wealthiest for tax cuts that benefit the middle class.
 
No he isn't. He's talking about switching tax cuts that benefit the wealthiest for tax cuts that benefit the middle class.

The wealthy already pay almost all the taxes as it is. Its sheer class warfare. Its also pure politics because he already knows the Congress won't pass it. Its all rhetoric for the consumption of his braindead robot goosestepping followers.
 
No he isn't. He's talking about switching tax cuts that benefit the wealthiest for tax cuts that benefit the middle class.

So you have no problem, I already knew that, of taking someone else's wealth and giving it to others rather than letting people spend their own money? Are you as generous with what you have and if so what makes you different than those evil rich people?
 
The wealthy already pay almost all the taxes as it is. Its sheer class warfare. Its also pure politics because he already knows the Congress won't pass it. Its all rhetoric for the consumption of his braindead robot goosestepping followers.

Obama's own numbers show this will generate as a projection 32 billion a year for 10 years which is a drop in the bucket thus serves no real purpose other than continuation of class warfare that this President is promoting.

Have no noticed that liberals never respond to the question as to how rich people have prevented them from becoming one of those that they want to punish? Have you noticed that liberals always seem to promote the false accusation that rich people take opportunity away from the poor ignoring that the economic pie continues to get bigger thus having room for others? Have you noticed that liberals ignore that it isn't the Federal Government's role to handle state and local social problems?
 
So you have no problem, I already knew that, of taking someone else's wealth and giving it to others rather than letting people spend their own money? Are you as generous with what you have and if so what makes you different than those evil rich people?

Yes Con.....with people of your ilk....its always "Income redistribution" when tax cuts benefit the middle class/working class....but its "letting rich people keep more of their money" when it benefits the wealthy.....we already know.
 
Obama's own numbers show this will generate as a projection 32 billion a year for 10 years which is a drop in the bucket thus serves no real purpose other than continuation of class warfare that this President is promoting.

Have no noticed that liberals never respond to the question as to how rich people have prevented them from becoming one of those that they want to punish? Have you noticed that liberals always seem to promote the false accusation that rich people take opportunity away from the poor ignoring that the economic pie continues to get bigger thus having room for others? Have you noticed that liberals ignore that it isn't the Federal Government's role to handle state and local social problems?

LOL....yeah riiiiiiight. This is "class warfare" but tax cuts that overwhelmingly benefit the top 5% is not. Gotcha!
 
The wealthy already pay almost all the taxes as it is. Its sheer class warfare. Its also pure politics because he already knows the Congress won't pass it. Its all rhetoric for the consumption of his braindead robot goosestepping followers.

OH B.S......the weathiest have every tax shelter and know every trick in the book to avoid paying taxes. How is it that a multi-billionaire dollar company like GE pays zero taxes?
 
Yes Con.....with people of your ilk....its always "Income redistribution" when tax cuts benefit the middle class/working class....but its "letting rich people keep more of their money" when it benefits the wealthy.....we already know.

You spout the same thing over and over again showing that you believe that the money belongs to the govt. and not the people who earned it. Still waiting for an answer to the questions raised?

Have no noticed that liberals never respond to the question as to how rich people have prevented them from becoming one of those that they want to punish? Have you noticed that liberals always seem to promote the false accusation that rich people take opportunity away from the poor ignoring that the economic pie continues to get bigger thus having room for others? Have you noticed that liberals ignore that it isn't the Federal Government's role to handle state and local social problems?
 
LOL....yeah riiiiiiight. This is "class warfare" but tax cuts that overwhelmingly benefit the top 5% is not. Gotcha!

Why shouldn't the people who pay the most in taxes get the biggest benefit? Are you ever going to respond to the questions posed?
 
OH B.S......the weathiest have every tax shelter and know every trick in the book to avoid paying taxes. How is it that a multi-billionaire dollar company like GE pays zero taxes?

Having among the highest taxes in the nation certainly hasn't helped your state solve the poverty problems. Why is that?
 
Why shouldn't the people who pay the most in taxes get the biggest benefit? Are you ever going to respond to the questions posed?

Why is cutting taxes on the working/middle class "Class Warfare"....yet cutting taxes on the wealthy "Allowing them to keep more of their hard earned money". Seems to me if you label one "class warfare" it certainly applies to the other as well. I guess not in your warped world.
 
The wealthy already pay almost all the taxes as it is. Its sheer class warfare. Its also pure politics because he already knows the Congress won't pass it. Its all rhetoric for the consumption of his braindead robot goosestepping followers.
OH B.S......the weathiest have every tax shelter and know every trick in the book to avoid paying taxes. How is it that a multi-billionaire dollar company like GE pays zero taxes?

You shifted from personal taxes to corporate taxes. Dishonest tactic. Typical Democrat.

As for tax shelters. They are legal, not a trick. Also, Republicans many times have offered a compromise on closing such loopholes in exchange for overall tax reductions, and your party rejects it every time. So that such shelters still exist, your party is to blame for that too.
 
Having among the highest taxes in the nation certainly hasn't helped your state solve the poverty problems. Why is that?

LOL....I'll take California's record vs. Texas any day of the week. California certainly has its problems, but Texas leads the nation in minimum wage jobs and is at the bottom or near the bottom in education and healthcare. Texas never saw a handout to a corporation that it didn't love....billions for the billionaires, minimum wage for the masses....welcome to Texas.
 
You shifted from personal taxes to corporate taxes. Dishonest tactic. Typical Democrat.

As for tax shelters. They are legal, not a trick. Also, Republicans many times have offered a compromise on closing such loopholes in exchange for overall tax reductions, and your party rejects it every time. So that such shelters still exist, your party is to blame for that too.

I didn't say they were illegal....but don't try to claim that the poor billionaires are paying all the taxes when you know for a fact that they avoid paying taxes by laundering their money in Cayman Island banks and other tax shelters.
 
Why is cutting taxes on the working/middle class "Class Warfare"....yet cutting taxes on the wealthy "Allowing them to keep more of their hard earned money". Seems to me if you label one "class warfare" it certainly applies to the other as well. I guess not in your warped world.

LOL, I have no problem with cutting taxes for the Middle Class, where did you get that idea? Still waiting for an answer to the questions posted
 
do you know why? because of investment. I make far more than I spend even with the outrageous taxes I pay. so I invest half my income each year. and yes, each year I am generally wealthier than I was the year before

why do I have a duty to pay more taxes when I already pay far far more than what I use

LOL. no.
 
I didn't say they were illegal....but don't try to claim that the poor billionaires are paying all the taxes when you know for a fact that they avoid paying taxes by laundering their money in Cayman Island banks and other tax shelters.

Where is your proof that billionaires are that significant of a factor in govt. revenue and are laundering their money in the Cayman Islands?
 
LOL, I have no problem with cutting taxes for the Middle Class, where did you get that idea? Still waiting for an answer to the questions posted

You say that....but your rhetoric speaks otherwise.
 
LOL....I'll take California's record vs. Texas any day of the week. California certainly has its problems, but Texas leads the nation in minimum wage jobs and is at the bottom or near the bottom in education and healthcare. Texas never saw a handout to a corporation that it didn't love....billions for the billionaires, minimum wage for the masses....welcome to Texas.

Is that right? Seems that the govt. statistics paint a different picture, California has more people below the poverty level than any other state in the nation and more people earning minimum wage than any other state in the nation. Is that the record you are proud of?
 
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